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 Post subject: v6 conversion
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 10:41 am 
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hey guys, looking at doing a v6 conversion into my 86 hilux just wanted to know if any knows about them or has done it be for any info about this would be good.


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 Post subject: Re: v6 conversion
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 12:53 pm 
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I know that xpfalcon170 was looking at this conversion for his 4 runner. I think that he mentioned that a 1UZ conversion works out to be not that much more, as you have to convert a LOT for the commo motor to work.

 

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 Post subject: Re: v6 conversion
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 1:01 pm 
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i was just looking around becose my mate is scraping his vp and he said if i wanted it i can have it, and i have a 22r motor in it and bean having to much trouble with the carby

 

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 Post subject: Re: v6 conversion
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:48 pm 
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hey hey, i heard someone mention my username.

yeh, ive had a brief look into doing a v6 conversion, as i too can aquire a very cheap vn motor.

http://www.v6conversions.com.au/hilux4runner.htm

this company i have not yet managed to ring up yet, but their kit is about nearly 2k. my understanding is that it includes everything to get the engine in and running. I have heard reports that diff ratios need to be changed, propshafts extended or shortened, gearbox crossmembers modified etc etc

You may also want to check out 4wdaction forums as they will have alot more info on the subject and many members who have actually done a v6 or 1uz v8 conversion.

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 Post subject: Re: v6 conversion
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:54 pm 
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well i had a look at the site and looks alright i dont want any hasssel with it i no i will but its due for rego in april so will have to wait till after then other then that i mite just get the 22r running right but if you go a head with it let me know how it gose very keen to see one

thanks for all your help guys

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 Post subject: Re: v6 conversion
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:23 pm 
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I have done 3 conversions myself and have been involved in a couple more.
I was looking into the V6 dunnydoor motor when my missus had her 4 runner and this is what I found out.
First off do you want auto or manual?
In my opinion auto makes a better off road vehicle in a lot of ways but will be more work.
If you go auto tailshafts will need to be changed and gearbox crossmembers moved. Also you need to fit the modified output shaft for the transfer case in the auto which involves stripping the auto so its best left to the experts and have the auto rebuilt at the same time.
Manual is a custom bell housing available from Dellow automotive , Marks 4x4 etc.
V6 conversions is just a reseller of most of Marks 4x4 gear in his 4x4 conversions.
Going manual keeps the driveline in its original place.

You need to get a VP motor or newer. The VN in series one and some series 2 had different cranks for auto and manual. There is a custom flywheel available to fit a manual to a VN auto motor but it is expensive and not worth it at all. Just get a VP or better motor and be done with it.
Diff ratios are a personal choice. As a rule 4 runners are geared low in the 4 cylinders to make up for their lack of power so when you put a more powerful motor in they will just about wheelstand off the mark but will rev harder on the highway.
If you dont like it you can get around that issue by going to larger tyres next tyre change. Going from a 31" tyre with 4.3 gears to a 33" tyre will give it the equivilent of 4.11 gearing etc.
I have never changed ratios in mine when doing a conversion. I only changed mine to 4.625's in the Mav when I had the 35" tyres on it. Now I am back on 33" I am running 4.11's.

You can find more info on http://www.toyotasurf.asn.au/forum/ and http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/.
Myself I reckon do it. I was looking at 1UZ for our old runner and while they are a more powerfull smoother motor , they are big , wide and as they are not an Australian released motor aftermarket parts are not readily available. Makes it hard if the truck is a daily driver. Also they are a paint to keep cool and physically fit in to a runner. They have been done many times with good results and the owners are more then happy but they are not my cup of tea.
Hope this is some help.
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Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:54 pm 
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I have been involved with a 1UZ into 4runner conversion, Personly next time i'd be puting a commodore V6 in. The 1UZ like has been mentioned is a very tight fit and it's an absolute pain in the a*** to service and repair when it's fitted in the hilux/runner.

The other option is an older chev V6, can be had as a 4.3L with injection.

 

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Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 8:30 pm 
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A full pajero conversion could be a goer......well would be for me, as long as the measurement work out..........if you can get a free motor then it'll still cost a bit when it's all done. Personally i would do a 302W before a commonwhore V6........

 

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 Post subject: Re: v6 conversion
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 10:19 pm 
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well all this info is goood thanks guys makeing me wanna do it, well as im on my p's i cant drive a v8 and when my broother starts driving as well thats y i thourt of a v6 well ill have to have a look at thouse sites and ill probly end up doing this when my cash bag grows a bit bigger
well thanks heps guys

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 Post subject: Re: v6 conversion
Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 2:54 pm 
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Hey matey,

I've done a s**t ton of v6 conversions, my last few were into a mitsubishi van, a courier dualcab, and my own fourby, a nissan 720.

Conversion into the fourby was one of the best converions, it has made it very competitive, and fun to drive. If you do the conversion yourself its very cheap and mod plates aren't had to get if you follow a few guidelines.

In it i decided to fit the auto, as it is much better for serious fourby work, rock climbing is so good with the auto. I'm running the 720's original ratios on 33 inch muddies and its perfect, hardly ever use low range anymore, but still only revs at approx 2300 at 100kmh.

Do it man, great conversion.

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 Post subject: Re: v6 conversion
Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 3:03 pm 
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V6 into hilux is alot of fun, get a lsd and also make the auto shift really hard..... careful in the wet

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 Post subject: Re: v6 conversion
Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 3:14 pm 
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the only thing i would do with a nasty rattly cheap and gutless v6 commodore motor is use it for a boat anchor get somthing decent like a hilux v6 or maybe a ford 4L six???? why would you want a 3.8L 130kw hunk of crap the diesel would be better

 

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Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 3:29 pm 
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the only thing i would do with a nasty rattly cheap and gutless v6 commodore motor is use it for a boat anchor get somthing decent like a hilux v6 or maybe a ford 4L six???? why would you want a 3.8L 130kw hunk of crap the diesel would be better

You really didnt think about that poat did you? They have more than 130kw, the have way more power than the diesel, and they are a compact engine that fits into almost anything. Have you actually ever measured a 4L six? i'd love to see one stuffed into a hilux.

 

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Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 3:46 pm 
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brad17djr wrote:
the only thing i would do with a nasty rattly cheap and gutless v6 commodore motor is use it for a boat anchor get somthing decent like a hilux v6 or maybe a ford 4L six???? why would you want a 3.8L 130kw hunk of crap the diesel would be better



Clever guy this one

There cheap, it fit and it had more power than original motor. The look on people's faces as your sideways of the lights

 

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 Post subject: Re: v6 conversion
Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 6:02 pm 
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brad17djr wrote:
the only thing i would do with a nasty rattly cheap and gutless v6 commodore motor is use it for a boat anchor get somthing decent like a hilux v6 or maybe a ford 4L six???? why would you want a 3.8L 130kw hunk of crap the diesel would be better

You really didnt think about that poat did you? They have more than 130kw, the have way more power than the diesel, and they are a compact engine that fits into almost anything. Have you actually ever measured a 4L six? i'd love to see one stuffed into a hilux.

not to mention say th3.4 hilux v6 aren't exactly classed as a terrrific motor, if you meant the new motor, well my mates already leaks oil everywhere at 200 odd, also very erxpensive to purchase.

but most importantly, hey Andrew's back. :lol:

still got the eb?

 

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