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Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 7:32 pm 
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question... did the el's have knock sensors or just the ef's? as i didnt change the timing case when i did my eb to el conversion

 

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Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 7:40 pm 
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Timing case?? The knock senor is in the block under the intake manifold isn't it?

 

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Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:36 pm 
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yes the EL has a knock sensor. it is located on the passenger side of the motor towards the back on the block itself

 

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Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:34 pm 
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All this talk about sensors is topical for me. Today i fitted the upper half of my EL BBM to the lower half of my AU BBM. Makes it much more plug and play.

Is there any chance i might ever decide to use the crank angle sensor or the other sensor just next to it? What does it do? Otherwise i'll take them off.

There is also a sensor at the back of the head a little bit towards the drivers side. What does that do?

The AU block doesn't have bolt holes for a coil, so i decided to mount the coil vertically using the middle two BBM bolts. It's a neat setup, but i'll need to redrill it again because the plug is interfering with another plug that goes into the BBM.

 

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Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:37 pm 
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huh? you confused me. there should only be 1 knock sensor and its not on the head. there shouldnt be ANY sensors on the head itself.

how does the bottom half of an AU manifold make it more plug and play? the bottoms are identicle

 

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Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:47 pm 
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the AUs have the temperature sensor in the head at the rear....its actually a better system because it measures cylinder head temperature, which means it can still sense temperture even when completely out of water...I dont think its compatable with the E series ecu but

 

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Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:58 pm 
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bloody hell. i didnt know that..

 

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Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:10 pm 
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huggiebear wrote:
how does the bottom half of an AU manifold make it more plug and play? the bottoms are identicle

It's the EL upper that is making things easier.

I'm surprised at the number of changes to the sensors and even the castings between the EL and AU upper bbm stuff.

 

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Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:15 pm 
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gogetta wrote:
the AUs have the temperature sensor in the head at the rear....its actually a better system because it measures cylinder head temperature, which means it can still sense temperture even when completely out of water...I dont think its compatable with the E series ecu but

Thanks. I was guessing it's a temp sensor.

The advice i've been given on this forum is to fit the EB lower thermostat housing, which has two temp sensors. I did that today.

 

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