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Here's an option....
Grab one of the many U.S. 5.0 EEC's available. Buy an Ostrich realtime emulator and EMU EEC adaptor from craig moates for about $200 U.S. Use either TunerproRT or Paul booths EECeditor software which are both available free and tune in real time. Ostrich V2 has real time data tracing too(haven't used this though). Pete. |
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Havnt used the data trace Pete, but the Ostrich is a bloody awesome bit of gear. No need to get an ECU from the states, as they work just fine on the Aussie ones.
Cheers Jaysen
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That assumes you have the time or inclination to work out your own definition files for the Aussie EEC's. Otherwise one of the nutted out U.S. EEC's is the easy way.
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Data tracing doesnt work on the Ostrich Emu setup for the fords, hence why you wont be able to find an ALDL ads file for TunerPro, you will need to get diagnostics via the OBD connection.
On the topic of def files, if anyone is interested, Ive got a one to suit 6DFC & 6DFD EL XR8 Manual, 6DGC & 6DGD EL Fairmont Ghia & Fairlane Ghia Auto, and will be starting on one for the 4DDG EF XR8 in a few weeks. Ive also got the bins for all of these, and if you have an auto ECU that you want to truely convert to manual, you have made upgrades ie MAF, injectors, cam, heads ect, then these are the way to go. Cheers Jaysen
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I'm interested Jase,
Fire away. BTW are they tunerpro def's or eeceditor or what? Cheers, Pete. |
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They are tunerpro xdf's, It isnt complete, but hopefully if I can get it out there, other people can have a look and improve on what Ive started. I cant upload the individual files, or a ZIP file for download, so Ill need to email it to you. There are very minor differences between the FC/FD & GC/GD, however the FC/GC files are almost identical, and same for the FD/GD. If any one else is interested, PM me your email address.
Cheers Jaysen
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Pete, had much luck with EECEditor, I didnt like it, probably because I didnt find building the def files as easy as TunerPro. How did you go with my xdf/bin combo, did you get it to work?
Have you got anything that you could share with me?
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Hi Jaysen,
I've only had a quick glance at the moment. I'm assuming that not all of the def file is nutted out? I mean you have lot and lots of tags but do they all match up? I like tunerpro better too. |
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A lot of it was converted from the GUFB strategy, Im sure that some of it is legacy code, however Ive been tuning with my Ostrich and F3 chip, working through parameters as I need them. Ive been chasing an idle when stone cold issue, but as you dont have much time to sort it out before ECT comes up, its a little tedious.
My setup is: World Windsor Jr's with a port clean up Ported HO with 24lb injectors E303 with 1.6 rollers Next to be played with is: Explorer when I get it ported 1.72 rollers Things Ive played with Rev PIP period Rev Limiters (half fuel only) Speed Limiters Fuel Maps (both base & WOT) Fuel vs ECT Spark Maps (both base & WOT) Global spark multipliers Spark vs ECT CT Spark table DASMIN & min MPH Injector Slopes Idle Speeds TB Airflow constant Im playing with it as much as I can, but time is my limiting factor at the moment.
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BTW, if its not legacy code, and Ive defined it ie 0x2aXXX location rather than 0x9XXX, then most likely it will work. Ive had another discovery with another definition, being a later EECIV than the A9L, so that might open up some new doors too when I sort through it, being that our aussie EECV's are running EECIV code for the most part of it in the EF/EL's
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I don't know that it's just a pure datalocation offset...if that's what you're meaning? Still it's worth a try...I just wish I had the time. I still haven't finished the damn 5.0 conversion on my van!?
Are you are referring to '94-'95 stang stuff? That is certainly a different strategy or do you mean the '96-'98 truck stuff which, I'm lead to believe is Mass Air. |
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Pete, from what Ive found the GUFB strategy matches the EECV found in the EF/EL 5ltrs closest. I looked at the CBAZA but its totally different. Its not a simple as an offset change, as there is more code in our EECV's so Ive had to search through the hex looking for the parameters, some needed changing as they are referenced to clock speed ie MAF transfer, PIP period, but Ive got those couple of things sorted. Going to attempt to dissasemble the code as a cross reference tonight, but I think thats only going to confuse the matter. If all else fails, Ive still got my current def file which to date has worked when RT emulating with the Ostrich, havnt found anything that crashes the car when updated, but Ive also note tested everything too.
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Hy sourbastard from what i know it will work it will just be down on power as there are atleast 3 links between the efi computer and the TCU for the auto the main one to worry about is the ect link to the TCU and the link from TCU to efi for when revrse gear is selected. If that last link is left open the efi will think the car is always in reverse and ruduce engine power and torque
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{USERNAME} wrote: Hy sourbastard from what i know it will work it will just be down on power as there are atleast 3 links between the efi computer and the TCU for the auto the main one to worry about is the ect link to the TCU and the link from TCU to efi for when revrse gear is selected. If that last link is left open the efi will think the car is always in reverse and ruduce engine power and torque I gather you mean transmission temp link rather than ECT. Also, I found that the EF-EL TCMs are harder to fool than the EB-ED TCMs. A lot of people complain about the thermo fans staying on, my drama was an impossible idle problem. |
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{USERNAME} wrote: {USERNAME} wrote: Hy sourbastard from what i know it will work it will just be down on power as there are atleast 3 links between the efi computer and the TCU for the auto the main one to worry about is the ect link to the TCU and the link from TCU to efi for when revrse gear is selected. If that last link is left open the efi will think the car is always in reverse and ruduce engine power and torque I gather you mean transmission temp link rather than ECT. Also, I found that the EF-EL TCMs are harder to fool than the EB-ED TCMs. A lot of people complain about the thermo fans staying on, my drama was an impossible idle problem. Dont no wether anyone is still interested but I removed TCU ,setup manual gear selecter switch to tell ECU that it was either in gear D or Neutral N by using wiring and resisistors and had a 10 hertz square wave pulse generator made,very simple and wired it in to replace TCU signal to ECU that all is well and everything works as it should. |
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