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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 3:28 pm 
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scotts840 wrote:
well you just got a whole bunch of info :p assuming i sent it to the right email addy.


Which one, I really have to stop using so many.

 

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Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 12:59 pm 
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OK some responses on Vialle's LPi. Scott nailed it mostly so I might as well restate it

Multivalve in the tank - no big deal - everything fitted straight to a normal tank gets fitted on a brass plate which then bolts onto the tank. It's no more of an issue to remove an MV than a float or AFL. A full-rebuild kit is available for the Vialle pump / mutlivalve assembly. Vialle indicates a life time better than most petrol fuel pumps. Read what you like into that. one solenoid is on the feed line. The return line has a one way valve.

Injectors - The LPG injectors are fitted onto the manifold wherever some space is available. 6cyl BA is probably hardest to package but manageable. There are several mounting types, one way is with a boss crimped into a drilled hole in the manifold. Another uses tubes. Another uses threaded inserts. I could go on and on.
Injector cycles - the injectors are based on Siemens run of the mill Deka units and are made by Siemens for Vialle. You will get bored counting total lifetime injections.

Pump - 5 speed diaphragm pump runs AC 3 phase (integral inverter), for max efficiency, min heat. 5 speed enables very large pressure and flow range for situations like:
starting mono fuel - max pressure needed
cruising low load - low pressure low flow
max load - you get the picture

Power - 200Kw

ECU - standard ECU retained, a piggy back ecu is also added. This 2nd ecu drives all the lpg system including accounting for temp, pressure, O2 etc etc etc. All petrol injection functions go straight thru to the LPG injectors via this ecu. Petrol / LPG changeover strategy is also controlled by the LPG ECU. For std dual fuel, it starts on petrol, waits for key parameters, then changes over automatically

Regulations - no dramas.

Availability - a company is claiming patent rights for Aus. This despite LPi having availability everywhere else in the world.

Liquiphase - good luck


If I ever get around to figuring out where to put pics and schematics I will. Sorry, nothing today dudes.

 

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Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 12:32 am 
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this may be what your lookin for

http://www.advancedengine.com/

go to "products"
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Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 1:39 am 
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needturbo6 wrote:
this may be what your lookin for

http://www.advancedengine.com/

go to "products"


That site only showed CNG not LPG liquid injection, CNG has limited range because it has kept at something like -150c to become a liquid.

 

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Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 1:43 am 
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flukey wrote:
If I ever get around to figuring out where to put pics and schematics I will. Sorry, nothing today dudes.


I will host it if you want, you can also use your members gallery.

If the specs etc are the same as what was sent to me, I can post them up, but I am unsure if that is OK at this point, I need to contact the person that sent the specs and repair manual to me, there could be some copyright issues. (LOL me saying this is different)

 

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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 7:18 am 
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The Parnel LPG Liquid system is supposed to be available this Feb...

Cant wait. Seriously cant wait
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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 9:16 pm 
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Liquid Injection is here now!

Australian LPG Warehouse now has their ICOM JTG Liquid injection system available. They have been carrying out extensive durability testing in Australia for over a year with great results.

They have already given training to the first group of installers with positive feedback. Due to the high demand already, it will only be available initially to existing ALPGW installers.

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