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 Post subject: Re: Tuning your EF/EL Falcon EEC-V with a J3 chip
Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 5:06 pm 
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Hmm, a 1:8 reg will be a good bet to get you close to start with, but ideally you will want to be able to tweak this, especially the spark map. As i've said elsehwere on here you will need either the reg or larger injectors - you cant magically get more fuel out of them with the tune, you just get closer to 100% duty cycle.

Personally I think im about to buy a set of 36lb injectors off ebay, there are a few people selling sets for <$300. They are EV6 too so should get better atomisation.

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Cool... I'll get the reg and look for the injectors.. Would also really like a switching chip so I can have a map for both charged on premium and charged on Gas... is that doable?

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 Post subject: Re: Tuning your EF/EL Falcon EEC-V with a J3 chip
Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 7:35 pm 
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MontGas wrote:
thats what i was thinking, LOL some poor idiots gunna buy that! thought it be great to have a backup ecu incase chip fails.


If the J3 chip doesn't work, just unplug it, it doesn't (and can't) do anything permanent to the ECU.


I think he meant if you have an auto ecu, and have used this chip to convert to a manual ecu after a box conversion.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Tuning your EF/EL Falcon EEC-V with a J3 chip
Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 8:05 pm 
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data_mine wrote:
MontGas wrote:
thats what i was thinking, LOL some poor idiots gunna buy that! thought it be great to have a backup ecu incase chip fails.


If the J3 chip doesn't work, just unplug it, it doesn't (and can't) do anything permanent to the ECU.


I think he meant if you have an auto ecu, and have used this chip to convert to a manual ecu after a box conversion.


Fair enough. That's a good excuse.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Tuning your EF/EL Falcon EEC-V with a J3 chip
Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 10:05 am 
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And yes data_mine thats what i had ment sorry im abit unclear on things sometimes, as we speak the car is getting manual converted (minus the ecu) and as for my concern about the chip, i have burned so many bins on it there starting to not take (the old red j3 chip) might get a spare chip soon.

Anyways back to the ECU maps i do have in my possession a tickford 6TEG gas ecu but am unable to rip it. would be quite happy to throw it your way when i get my car back. would save people triggering spark maps as we can copy the lpg maps over the petrol.

anyways for the heck of it im going to be porting and polishing some ring mixers just for fun then chucking the car on the dyno to see if any gains can be had, at the same time i wanna get a tune right with a dyno chart to prove.

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 Post subject: Re: Tuning your EF/EL Falcon EEC-V with a J3 chip
Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 10:11 am 
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MontGas wrote:
i have burned so many bins on it there starting to not take (the old red j3 chip) might get a spare chip soon.

This is more than likely just the edge connector on the programmer becoming oxidised. Fix it by installing & removing the chip 10 or 20 times to clean up the contacts. We moved to a cable in newer models to prevent this. The flash roms can take thousands of cycles, no way you will wear it out!
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Anyways back to the ECU maps i do have in my possession a tickford 6TEG gas ecu but am unable to rip it. would be quite happy to throw it your way when i get my car back. would save people triggering spark maps as we can copy the lpg maps over the petrol.

I would be able to pull it for you, if you post it out I will send it back to you of course. Send me a PM if you like.

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 Post subject: Re: Tuning your Falcon with a T.I. Performance J3 Chip
Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 11:13 am 
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Might have to get the new chip and cable, yeah it take plugging it in a few times to get it to burn. so you'll be able to convert the bin to a use able 64k?

will pm you the moment my car get back (order some stuff to and pay u to rip the ecu)

Should make for a good resource for people to get ahold of, id be keen to see what tickford changed.

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 Post subject: Re: Tuning your Falcon with a T.I. Performance J3 Chip
Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 3:29 pm 
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If you clean the pins on the card well enough, they will stay clean for a few months. You could try a 1200 sandpaper, but be light with it. I still use this method.

It's easy to split the 256K bins, you can do it with tunerpro. You want bank 2 (counting from 0).

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 Post subject: Re: Tuning your Falcon with a T.I. Performance J3 Chip
Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 10:07 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Tuning your Falcon with a T.I. Performance J3 Chip
Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 4:25 pm 
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Updated a few files on the site, specifically fixed up the 4TAB base bin which had retarded timing in the top end (10deg vs 30deg !) & uploaded a new definition for 6TAB - so anyone tuning an EL Manual bin make sure you use the latest definition.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Tuning your Falcon with a T.I. Performance J3 Chip
Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 2:34 pm 
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Hey guys, just wondering do ya need to disconnect battery when cleaning J3 port,to install?
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 Post subject: Re: Tuning your Falcon with a T.I. Performance J3 Chip
Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 2:50 pm 
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Hey guys, just wondering do ya need to disconnect battery when cleaning J3 port,to install?
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If you can clean the port with the ECU still in car, you should get a job when extreme flexibility is required. freak show or circus maybe?

I recommend the ECU be removed from the car to clean the port properly. Also safe power wise too.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Tuning your Falcon with a T.I. Performance J3 Chip
Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 3:48 pm 
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If you clean it with a screwdriver while plugged in you will likely break something.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Tuning your Falcon with a T.I. Performance J3 Chip
Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 4:17 pm 
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Hey Galapogos01 - tried emailing you that Photoshop file you wanted, but your email server just throws it back at me as being too damn big (it is over 10mb after all...)

PM me your address and I'll snail mail it on disk to you...

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 Post subject: Re: Tuning your Falcon with a T.I. Performance J3 Chip
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 10:30 am 
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galapogos01 wrote:
If you clean the pins on the card well enough, they will stay clean for a few months. You could try a 1200 sandpaper, but be light with it. I still use this method.

It's easy to split the 256K bins, you can do it with tunerpro. You want bank 2 (counting from 0).

Cheers,
Jason


Much better to use a pencil eraser as the plating on the contacts is quite thin (i'm an electronics techie amongst other things). Most oxidation usually comes off easy enough with a bit of effort. Once a bit shiny then use some isopropyl alchahol (not metho!) to finish cleaning the rubber gunk left by the eraser. In a pinch I use the medical wipe things in foil wrap they use to clean your skin before a needle. Most chemists stock them.

Did you manage to get this BIN copied? I am just moving from a EF to an EL and I want the gas bins for a 6TGx series or your mentioned gas 6TEG.

Cheers, David
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 Post subject: Re: Tuning your Falcon with a T.I. Performance J3 Chip
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:58 pm 
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Hi David,

Cheers for the eraser tip. LPG bins are on the site; they are a good starting point but there are more gains to be had too.

Cheers,
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 Post subject: Re: Tuning your Falcon with a T.I. Performance J3 Chip
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 10:50 am 
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Hey guys, have just added support for AU2 XR8 Manual (Smartshield) to the site.

If anyone has an AU which is not supported (i.e. AU2 V8 Auto) and lives in Melbourne, send me a PM.

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 Post subject: Re: Tuning your Falcon with a T.I. Performance J3 Chip
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 10:01 am 
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Hi how do i put a ef/el ecu into my xg ute

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 Post subject: Re: Tuning your Falcon with a T.I. Performance J3 Chip
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 10:12 am 
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Same as you would in an EA-ED. Will plug straight in.

If the Ute doesnt have Smartlock (not sure if they do?) you may have to disable it in the chip.

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 Post subject: Re: Tuning your Falcon with a T.I. Performance J3 Chip
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 1:08 pm 
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Same as you would in an EA-ED. Will plug straight in.

If the Ute doesnt have Smartlock (not sure if they do?) you may have to disable it in the chip.

Jason

Hi my ute is a non smart lock car it was made in 1993,i have an ecu out of a EB XR6 wagon the catch code is 3DCC it wont start in my ute as this ecu is for a smart lock car,how do i get around this,or is the EF/EL ecu better,thanks.

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 Post subject: Re: Tuning your Falcon with a T.I. Performance J3 Chip
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 1:17 pm 
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Hi, there are two ways of using a Smartlock ECU in a Non Smartlock car.

First is to use a Smartlock Bypass, which is what I have done.

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The second is to use a J3 chip as discussed in this thread.

I used the Bypass module, as the J3 chip was not an option at that time. I would recommend using a J3 chip, as the price is comparable, and there are many more options available to you with the J3 chip.

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