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Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 2:59 pm 
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Gezza200 You either talk a lot of crap or have one of those freak Fords that just seem to go really hard for no real reason. A stock supra will murder an EL Ford all day long unless A. The supra was stuffed, B. He wasnt trying C. He cant drive.


I'm not talking up mine at all, im just saying that a stock supra NA, id love to see one of them do a 14.9 because every supra NA i have come up to i have pulled away with out much trouble. Unless mine does better than 14.9 but i doubt that. I will have to take mine down to calder one day to show you what it runs.


Can't wait to see what you run down the quarter (and your 60 foot time will make for interesting reading...).
Will be watching with interest.
As stated, your EL seems to be able to demolish most cars on the road.
Must be nice to drive where you live, with the amount of racing you seem to do... :lol:


lol ok then il be sure to let you know, dont no how me saying my car is quicker than an NA supra, turns into demolishing mosts car on the roads but yeah...


Becuase in nearly every thread where there's a vehicle comparison your response is generally "yeah, my EL whips (insert car here) in a race".
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Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:02 pm 
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Gezza, i think downingj was referring to how much street racing youve done to use for comparisions as opposed to the fact you havnt taken your car down the 1/4 to see what times it pulls...

GeZza200 wrote:
Iv never been beten off the line by any holden 6 and they have never been able to keep up after we have takin off either


GeZza200 wrote:
We had a few goes at the lights and when hes doing 140ks plus i think he is trying to race. I backed off and he would fly past me.


GeZza200 wrote:
How does that work i'v beatin every BA 6 that iv come up against and mine has a 3.08diff


GeZza200 wrote:
VX Clupsport should go pretty hard but they still dont take off quick, i have beatin every VT SS i have raced and they havn't been able to catch


GeZza200 wrote:
Your V8 must of been rooted becuause i have raced 3 supercharged VT's (2 calais's and an S). All 3 times neck an neck untill about 90 then i started to pull away, except for the S which we were neck an neck untill 110k then i started to pull away.


GeZza200 wrote:
yeah i would believe it, some 4's hammer off the line but i will always real them in pretty quick


GeZza200 wrote:
I reckon james XR wouldn't have a problem beating an R33 GTS-T, i raced one a few weeks ago, beat him off the line and to 100km and he would slowly pass me at 130km, also raced 3 times


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Hi my mate just got a EF falcon futura 4.0L auto, hes a mechanic and he just put the EF XR6 head on it and serviced the car so its running nice. We had a quick squirt last night and his car couldn't keep up with mine at all. We both booted it from 50ks and stop at around 120k


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I had a run in with a VS ute with 185kw on the back and beat that by about a car length to 130k's then backed off and i was slowly pulling away aswell.


GeZza200 wrote:
dont no how u lost, iv givin heaps of xr's a hiding and quite a few xr8's


GeZza200 wrote:
I know this thread is old but, did you end up racing him?? Because i just had a run in with a VX XU6 tonight and beat it. I was about 2 car lenghts in front at 120 then i backed off. He wound down his window at the next lights, should of seen his face when he looked at me lol.


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stock ED's must be slow as s**t then, i can wip VL turbos quite easy in mine and even if they are boosted high, they have to catch me, and by that time i have already backed off.


lol k k i talk about it to much. didn't relise. Il take it to the strip, before i start saying iv have beatin people then.

 

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Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:08 pm 
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more accurate for sure.
http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=7&products_id=41 thats better then the jim mock dyno.


That's a top site I've been looking to upgrade to a flux capactor for a while and couldn't locate one. Thanks bloke.

 

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Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:12 pm 
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lol yeah ive chomped a couple cars, and been beaten by a stocko falcon ute, BUT until my track times improve, i got nuthin to boast about lol
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Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 5:28 pm 
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gezza has got to stop hanging around school zones and racing mothers after they pick up the kids and looking for races at centrelink on pension payday..

 

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Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 5:33 pm 
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FordFairmont wrote:
Gezza, i think downingj was referring to how much street racing youve done to use for comparisions as opposed to the fact you havnt taken your car down the 1/4 to see what times it pulls...

GeZza200 wrote:
Iv never been beten off the line by any holden 6 and they have never been able to keep up after we have takin off either


GeZza200 wrote:
We had a few goes at the lights and when hes doing 140ks plus i think he is trying to race. I backed off and he would fly past me.


GeZza200 wrote:
How does that work i'v beatin every BA 6 that iv come up against and mine has a 3.08diff


GeZza200 wrote:
VX Clupsport should go pretty hard but they still dont take off quick, i have beatin every VT SS i have raced and they havn't been able to catch


GeZza200 wrote:
Your V8 must of been rooted becuause i have raced 3 supercharged VT's (2 calais's and an S). All 3 times neck an neck untill about 90 then i started to pull away, except for the S which we were neck an neck untill 110k then i started to pull away.


GeZza200 wrote:
yeah i would believe it, some 4's hammer off the line but i will always real them in pretty quick


GeZza200 wrote:
I reckon james XR wouldn't have a problem beating an R33 GTS-T, i raced one a few weeks ago, beat him off the line and to 100km and he would slowly pass me at 130km, also raced 3 times


GeZza200 wrote:
Hi my mate just got a EF falcon futura 4.0L auto, hes a mechanic and he just put the EF XR6 head on it and serviced the car so its running nice. We had a quick squirt last night and his car couldn't keep up with mine at all. We both booted it from 50ks and stop at around 120k


GeZza200 wrote:
I had a run in with a VS ute with 185kw on the back and beat that by about a car length to 130k's then backed off and i was slowly pulling away aswell.


GeZza200 wrote:
dont no how u lost, iv givin heaps of xr's a hiding and quite a few xr8's


GeZza200 wrote:
I know this thread is old but, did you end up racing him?? Because i just had a run in with a VX XU6 tonight and beat it. I was about 2 car lenghts in front at 120 then i backed off. He wound down his window at the next lights, should of seen his face when he looked at me lol.


GeZza200 wrote:
stock ED's must be slow as s**t then, i can wip VL turbos quite easy in mine and even if they are boosted high, they have to catch me, and by that time i have already backed off.


LOL!! Okay, I take back me defending you. This talk will definitely have to be backed up on a track. Also, I can't believe you'd talk so much about illegal racing and not expect to get drilled by everyone on here! Seems a bit silly to me.

 

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Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:25 pm 
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Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:39 pm 
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this thread has become GAYER then a sword fight in a gay bar.



IT COULD have been a good thread based around building an engine with 200fwkw odd and making sure it has the fattest power curve posible.

BUT NO the tech section is far better for arguing over a f**k supra.

 

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Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 11:54 pm 
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Christ allmighty ford fairmont !!- how long did it take you to dig all that up???

I mean, I think the guy has given me s**t before- but is that not taking it a bit too far :lol:

Give him a break...

cars can be funny things...my old eb auto 300xxx k's nothing but exhaust - has munched BA manual n/a' s then u jump in other EB's that are sorry cases that a 1.5 l pulsar would put to shame..........how WHO KNOWS maybe this white el is a real freak?????

 

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Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 1:10 am 
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Christ allmighty ford fairmont !!- how long did it take you to dig all that up???

I mean, I think the guy has given me s**t before- but is that not taking it a bit too far :lol:

Give him a break...

cars can be funny things...my old eb auto 300xxx k's nothing but exhaust - has munched BA manual n/a' s then u jump in other EB's that are sorry cases that a 1.5 l pulsar would put to shame..........how WHO KNOWS maybe this white el is a real freak?????


could be a real freak..but until we see track times we can assume its s**t as there's a lot of cars that he 'claimed' to beat in street races that i think would be most n/a 6's. A vt ss are pretty quick unless it had the 5.0, and the supercharged 6's...get it on a track asap and prove me wrong..
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Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 2:21 am 
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tickford_6 wrote:
this thread has become GAYER then a sword fight in a gay bar.



IT COULD have been a good thread based around building an engine with 200fwkw odd and making sure it has the fattest power curve posible.

BUT NO the tech section is far better for arguing over a f**k supra.


i think it was pointless from the start....who the f**k wants to race with a stock car? chances are any supra that isnt getting driven by some old man isnt stock anyway

 

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Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 8:10 am 
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skidder wrote:
tickford_6 wrote:
this thread has become GAYER then a sword fight in a gay bar.



IT COULD have been a good thread based around building an engine with 200fwkw odd and making sure it has the fattest power curve posible.

BUT NO the tech section is far better for arguing over a f**k supra.


i think it was pointless from the start....who the f**k wants to race with a stock car? chances are any supra that isnt getting driven by some old man isnt stock anyway


that the funny part about it. if the title of the thread was "How to make 210fwkw"

and the guy never mentioned why he wanted it, this thread would have turned out very different. BUT it's the same question

 

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Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 1:28 pm 
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a lumpy cam..
extractors..
cold air induction..
3 inch mandrel intake..
High flow cat..
2.5 inch cat back exhaust..
adjustable cam gear..
port/polish/shave..
bigger valves and heavy duty springs..

should see you at or over 208 KW at the engine... (EF-AU i6)


but 208 kw na is diffferent from 208kw forced induction...

 

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Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 1:09 pm 
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Yeah good plan. That sounds like a fairly standard set of mods, which is good. Part the point of my question was, if I do standard mods, will I be able to get 208kw or more. Which it seems I will. Thanks guys


As for why I mentioned the reason for wanting to beef up my motor was so hopefully there would be some interesting discussion about that pursuit.

didn't go how I expected but it was still interesting.

 

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Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 3:49 pm 
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you shouldn't even need to touch the head anymore then taking about 30thou of it and fitting an AU head gasket.
Though while it's off it would be worth it to fit narrow stem AU valves.

CMS, WADE, TIGHE all have some nice medium cams that will do it with out turning the engine into doughy slug at low RPM.

extractors and exhaust system
3 inch intake


should see you there pretty easy. you're really only looking at about 145 to 150rwkw with a manual, take about 10kw off for an auto.

 

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