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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 1:21 am 
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What are they if any? and what would i need to change to put a 4litre long motor in my car? would all the accesories from the 3.9 mpi go on? Also just using a ef 4litre for example would the motor need to have the coil packs to work properly? Im only planning on getting a long motor with no accessories so im hoping it will all go together without any mods, and i am able to just bolt on all the 3.9 gear, I assume flywheels are the same too?
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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 10:54 am 
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Yes it will fit, a motor is a motor basically speaking, gearbox will bolt up, engine mounts will fit and bolt up, and all other accesories, brackets etc will bolt and fit as best I know, the same exhaust manifold was used for EA to EF.

 

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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 10:56 am 
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oh btw forgot to mention the 4.0 litre motor im looking at is out of a eb if its of any use
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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 12:09 pm 
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Felony wrote:
oh btw forgot to mention the 4.0 litre motor im looking at is out of a eb if its of any use
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this means that you wont need coil packs, i wouldnt se the point upgrading if you aready have a mpfi engine, a nice upgrade would be an au tickford if u wanted some exra power
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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 12:11 pm 
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i just got my hands on this motor off ebay paid $56 for a 4 litre, i was after a motor to work then drop in and i ended up with a 4litre thats all,
I was also just curious bout the coil packs incase it was from a ef cause at the time of posting i had no idea what it was out of,
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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 12:43 pm 
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Just a question:
When did they switch from center point injection to multipoint?
Was it sometime during the EAs?

 

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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 12:51 pm 
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yeh EA's had both cpi and mpfi,, cpi was done away with as the EB came in...

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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 12:51 pm 
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yes it was through the ea's

 

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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 4:02 pm 
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some of the series 1 eb's were centre point aswell, and ive also seen cfi on ex taxis but that isnt standard.

 

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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 4:04 pm 
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some of the early eb's had cfi aswell, and ive seen cfi setups on ef taxis but they arnt standard i dont think.

 

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Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 11:09 pm 
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Some people tell me that theres internal differences between the 3.9 and 4 litre engine, to the point where im told its better to work a 4.0 rather than a 3.9? whats the deal is there any diff besides .1 of a litre, also how do you work out how many litres 40thou ( 1mm ) is,
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Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 11:52 pm 
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i think that the bottom end on both engines are the same, however i think the heads are different. may be wrong though

 

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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 9:45 am 
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ive done a 3.9 to 4l conversion in my EA wagon, the motor is out of a xh ute (i think its xh or xg cant remember wich), all accesories bolt on, the 4l has a slightly bigger bore from memory and yea different head. All accessories bolt on without a drama, one thing you might want to check though is with 3.9's they ran a V belt on the alternator, the 4l crank pulley had a flat belt so had to change the pully on my alternator but apart from that everything else bolts up

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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 11:43 am 
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Ive seen an article in Autospeed (on the web) that chronicles
the E series Falcon engines, with much detail.
Rather good.

Try this link to "Awakening the Aussie Ford 6"
http://autospeed.drive.com.au/cms/A_2233/article.html

PS. I also have a pdf copy of the article, if anybody wants one
as the link doesn't always give the complete article.

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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 4:14 pm 
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www.eafalcon.com

have all the specs

Bore x stroke
91.86 x 99.30 mm (3.9)
92.3 x 99.3 mm (4.0)

Thats what i got

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