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 Post subject: 3spd auto NA fairlane Issue
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:48 am 
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Hi

I have a ford NA fairlane and I am having an issue with the transmission

Basically when the car is in first gear it will not change to second unless I release the accelerator and let the rpm drop down, at this point it will bang into gear. it changes from 2 to 3 under its own ability. a little noisy but on its own.

does anyone know what this issue could be?

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 Post subject: Re: 3spd auto NA fairlane Issue
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 11:33 am 
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Hey.

Nice to see another NA on here.

If it has only recently started acting up, and is still selecting gears itself to an extent, I would probably check fluid levels first.

If that looks ok. Then I'd get a Auto Trans Service kit and replace the filter, and give it some new oil.

Check the magnets inside of the pan while your there, see how much grey/metal is there.

If it is pretty rough looking. The bands may be getting worn and need adjustment. A decent transmission joint should be able to service these, my mate says the old 3 speeds come pretty good with a pan kit and an adjustment.

Or for the ultimate fix.. Convert it to a Manual!

 

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 Post subject: Re: 3spd auto NA fairlane Issue
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 3:49 pm 
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Lowlane7 wrote:
Hey.

Nice to see another NA on here.

If it has only recently started acting up, and is still selecting gears itself to an extent, I would probably check fluid levels first.

If that looks ok. Then I'd get a Auto Trans Service kit and replace the filter, and give it some new oil.

Check the magnets inside of the pan while your there, see how much grey/metal is there.

If it is pretty rough looking. The bands may be getting worn and need adjustment. A decent transmission joint should be able to service these, my mate says the old 3 speeds come pretty good with a pan kit and an adjustment.

Or for the ultimate fix.. Convert it to a Manual!



Thanks mate

Just checked the trans fluid and it is way low, it is at the bottom end of the ADD on the dipstick,

I will see if I can get some more fluid and top it up.

will also look into doing a service kit, as it has done over 300000K on original oil, is it very messy?

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 Post subject: Re: 3spd auto NA fairlane Issue
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:45 pm 
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I have filled it up to the "ok" line, and it is still not changing gears so I will have to drop the transmission fluid and open it up, clean it up.

Does anyone know if this is an over the counter part?

 

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 Post subject: Re: 3spd auto NA fairlane Issue
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:16 pm 
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Its available over the counter at Bursons/Repco etc. Ryco Part number is RTK8.

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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:22 pm 
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These also havetrouble with bad earths.
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 Post subject: Re: 3spd auto NA fairlane Issue
Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:28 pm 
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bad earth? changing gears? mechanical auto? not related. I was also told by a auto guru years ago that if a old three speed BW gets a bit sad with age and kms. service it and a full flush. but refill with DexronIII. Not the Ford fluid.

Worked on my XF. It started dropping into neutral on take off. Did the above. Was sweet for another 2 years after

 

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 Post subject: Re: 3spd auto NA fairlane Issue
Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:38 pm 
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NA my bad. I was on the mindset of Au for some reason there. Haha.
I've been told that if you use some oil stabilizer after a full flush and new fluid it can get a bit more life out of them.
Note that maxlife is the same as dx3 and usually cheaper.
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 Post subject: Re: 3spd auto NA fairlane Issue
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 9:56 am 
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not exactly. Maxlife is slightly different. But in saying that, i worked at a Holden dealership when i had my XF. So DexIII was a plenty

 

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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:06 pm 
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Yea it's is slightly. But maxlife is a guarantee replacement for quite a few other fluids too. I like it.
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 Post subject: Re: 3spd auto NA fairlane Issue
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:14 pm 
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Hi All

I have dropped the fluid and cleaned out the pan and filter.

One notable thing i found was a slip of gasket or something sitting in the pan. looked like gasket paper that one would put on the manifold or something.

Replaced the gasket, filter and fluid, the fluid i found in there was almost black. after changing this it does not bang into gear like it was but it still wont change from first to second without taking foot off accelerator.

should i at this point drive it to a transmission place to get them to check the bands?

are the bands something i can do myself?

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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:37 pm 
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What fluid did you use? Did you do a full flush? Or just a s**t quick oil change? By your post, i'm gunna say the latter

 

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 Post subject: Re: 3spd auto NA fairlane Issue
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 12:08 am 
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I dumped the oil that was in the pan and transmission, about 3.5L worth

I followed the instructions in the service manual so is there a better way to flush it?

the fluid I used was dex 3 fluid. that is what I was advised to use by Repco

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 Post subject: Re: 3spd auto NA fairlane Issue
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 1:22 am 
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Bazzy wrote:
I dumped the oil that was in the pan and transmission, about 3.5L worth

I followed the instructions in the service manual so is there a better way to flush it?

the fluid I used was dex 3 fluid. that is what I was advised to use by Repco

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This seems like a real strange issue regarding it not changing gears , kick down cable all connected still

The bands i am quite sure its a pan of job ,

Yeap that is the correct fluid and i guess that would be good enough i guess you got about half the fluid out plus a new filter better then nothing at all

How annoying is this problem ?

I guess if you can live with it maybe just do anther pan drop and filter in a month or 2 to try clean the fluid even more
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 Post subject: Re: 3spd auto NA fairlane Issue
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 9:16 am 
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my first thought on a 3 speed is check your kickdown cable adjustment....
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