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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 8:48 pm 
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The best platform would be a BA/BF XR6T. Handles well, modern interior and excellent performance potential. Taking into account depreciation and all, this will work out to be far more economical than throwing money at boosting an XF - especially if you're not choosing any one model for looks or features.

 

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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 9:05 pm 
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Lots and Lots of good replies!! This is EXACTLY the info I was after!!

Some of you fellas sure know your Fords! Good Stuff!!
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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 9:52 pm 
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I havnt purchased the car yet, I like to do a little research before I jump in. I will buy which ever car has the best base platform to start with. Its going to be a weekend joy ride car.


is the joy going to come form the poke, or does it have to handle also? stock for stock the base model au is a much sweeter drive than any of the other models. you could use a an el xr6 if you could find one cheap enough.

all depends on what initial cash you want to throw at the purchase. Obviously an XF crossflow would be a lot cheaper.

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Actually the AU block is the weakest for boost, with ED the best.


not to piss on your fire krisis, but care to back that up with some hard data? all well and good to state it but for the rest of us, would like to know how you arived at that conclusion.

the rods i can understand, as AU rods are longer then e series (5.8 inch as compared to 6 inch iirc), so they would bend a little easier.


I remember asking a long time ago about using e series rods with au pistons to effectively decompress for forced induction, but never really got a 100% answer. I recall the "quench" issue popped up, and after that kinda lost interest. Has to do with the cooling of the cylinder, and if the gap between piston and head is too large you run hot and detonate. probably better off running dished pistons. the stock AU can handle 9 psi all day, probably a bit more with a really good tune, and good nick motor, less with a worn item. so I think the rods may be your big issue at 12-15, so maybe look at the e series engines for the shorter/stronger rods. thing is if you want a reliable gasket you use the au mls gasket, which brings e series compression up a taaaaad.

 

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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 9:58 pm 
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krisisdog wrote:
Actually the AU block is the weakest for boost, with ED the best.


not to piss on your fire krisis, but care to back that up with some hard data? all well and good to state it but for the rest of us, would like to know how you arived at that conclusion.


I think that Dan made it clear... the block is fine but the rods are crap.

 

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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:50 am 
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Froudey wrote:
Grimketel wrote:
krisisdog wrote:
Actually the AU block is the weakest for boost, with ED the best.


not to piss on your fire krisis, but care to back that up with some hard data? all well and good to state it but for the rest of us, would like to know how you arived at that conclusion.


I think that Dan made it clear... the block is fine but the rods are crap.


krisis never mentioned the rods froudey, Im interested in why the au block is weaker. If theres something I should know about the au block i would really like to know it.

pretty simple.

 

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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:44 am 
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Grimketel wrote:
is the joy going to come form the poke, or does it have to handle also? stock for stock the base model au is a much sweeter drive than any of the other models. you could use a an el xr6 if you could find one cheap enough.

all depends on what initial cash you want to throw at the purchase. Obviously an XF crossflow would be a lot cheaper.


Its all about the poke for me in this particular car, just that initial 0 - 160 or so to get that feeling you need to be able make it through the day :)

I also enjoy having the "older car" to see the drop jaw effect when you pass someone in there 5.0 litre with a big "cam, holley, and exhaust" lol

I actually am eyeing up the EL serios, im thinking somthing with around 100 - 140 ish k on the clock, auto with a/c so i can launch and drift while having a cool breeze on my face.
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:56 am 
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If it is poke you want, consider an EA or EB as they are the lightest of the E series by a good 100kg or so.

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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:30 pm 
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eb2 auto 6 cyl 1467kg kerb weight

au2 auto 6 cyl 1505kg kerb weight

38 kilo's isnt exactly a lot, considering the better ride and quality of the later. definately not 100kg.

EL was slightly heavier than AU though.

 

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