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Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 5:55 am 
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ok so who has done it and how hard was it to do? I reckon that it would be worth while doin though cause I reckon a manual behind my Falcon would be awesome.

 

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Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 9:30 am 
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manual falcon is worth it :D
love mine

ask amber she has done it...

 

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Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 9:35 am 
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Did the converstion early a few mornings ago with a mate its a easy job to do and fun. Let me tell you it is the best mod i have done to date as boy the f**k goes now well worth it im so stupid i haven't done it earlier.
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Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 12:42 pm 
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after talking to nick and finding out how many ppl have done it, i'm very tempted to get it done now.

looking at around $1000 - $1500 for the box from what i've seen so far, but fitting it; is it fairly easy to do yourself or are there decent shops around in melbourne that do a drive-in sideways-out service? like mark from ITS, he appears to be able to do it for $1250 with box installed...

weighing up my options, i'm sure a few other ppl might be interested in knowing this.

 

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Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 12:50 pm 
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i say go for it...
i went in my mates ef auto...

its poo compared to my manual...

 

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Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 1:12 pm 
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Mate go for it only take a few hours if you got all the parts needed
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Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 4:41 pm 
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Mate go for it only take a few hours if you got all the parts needed


Remove centre console and T bar.

Put vehicle up on 4 stands

Remove tailshaft

Spill s**t of fluid everywhere

Swear

Remove auto cooling lines

Remove auto wiring

Remove selector linkage

Put trolley jack on rear of auto

Unbolt trans crossmember

Lower trans by jack

Swear as more fluid pisses out.

Clean up fluid

Put oil catch pan under rear of auto

Lower further

Swear as top radiator hose pulls itself from radiator and spills coolant everywhere

Clean up coolant.

Lower further

Swear as you hear the exhaust crack because you didn't unbolt it.

Unbolt exhaust.

Lower further till engine leans against firewall

Unbolt gearbox from engine except one bolt which wont come out

Undo toque converter from flex plate

Move jack to centre of gearbox

Graze knuckles many times as you attempt to remove final bolt

Finally get it out.

Remove gearbox.

Unbolt flex plate & remove

Have spacer between engine and gearbox fall on arm cutting it.

Swear

Get bandaid

Swear when you realise the stupid ford crank has holes right through the crank so oil leaks out from motor.

Clean up oil and tilt engine forward a tiny bit

Remove auto fluid cooler piping

Get flywheel

Fit to engine

Swear when you realise you left the spacer plate off

Unbolt flywheel & remove

Fit spacer plate

Fit flywheel

Swear when you realise you left the spigot bush out.

Drive to spare parts shop

Get spigot bearning

Fit spigot bearing

Fit clutch

Fit bellhousing

Fit gearbox

Connect up reverse switch, speed sender, 7k resistor to selector switch and 1.2k resistor to temp sender in auto loom so you dont need to buy a manual ECU

Raise gearbox

Bolt to chassis

Reconnect radiator hose and top up with water

Fit tailshaft

Remove dashboard

Remove auto brake pedal box and fit manual brake/clutch pedal box

Install clutch cable

Refit dashboard

Remove top of gearbox and fill up with auto trans fluid

Refit top of gearbox

Fit trim around gear selector

Start and drive.

I've surely forgotten a few things and many swearing incidents but that should be a beginning.

Few hours eh? Pigs a***.
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Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 4:50 pm 
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only took us 3-4 hours and we did it at 2 in the morning and had car basicly running to get maccas breaky
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Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 5:47 pm 
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Ahh...

Didn't see the "we" bit.

I thought it was done on your own, in which case it would be almost impossible to do in 3-4 hours, even if you had already done it eleventy billion times...
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Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 6:58 pm 
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its an awesome mod and very worthwhile
hardest part is changing the pedal box - especially if you have an alarm and splits etc fitted

best mod ive done so far

 

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Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 9:55 pm 
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Yep, this mod is DEFINATELY worthwhile. its a good learning curve aswell.

Some tips when you go ahead, try not unplugging all the plugs from the dash, as some are hard to find :roll: . If for the manual box you get an EA wiring loom, maybe it was just me, but the wires in the plug need to be rearranged so that the speed works and all.

The resistors help alot, definately do that.

Um... Take it out of gear before starting it.

Get a new spigot bearing.

Get a new clutch, and XR6 one if you can. (not necessary, but its a while Im down there sort of thing).

Get some steelies.

But yeah, worthwhile conversion, definately worth it. And you won't regret it. As for the box, I picked up a whole manual car (well almost whole) for $1000, and I got everything from that. Sold s**t here and there, and the box didn't cost me much in the end. and its also good having spare parts at your hand.
A conversion kit you can pick up for probably around the $600 mark. And there will be people on here that would be willing to give you a hand (Thanks Guys :D ), I would.. but you're a bit far.

So yeah, go for it!

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Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 10:05 pm 
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I'm on the look out for a decent T5 and all necessary parts do it as well. I am sick of these damn Commies beating me off the line. Stupid gear box ratios :evil:
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Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 10:11 pm 
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The ITS Performance conversion kit, i think $1250? What exactly does that include? Box, pedal box, cables, flywheel, what other stuff that i dont know of!! What about ECU?

 

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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 7:15 am 
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Mate, If you go ahead with it, let me know, and i can probably give you a hand. Did it yo my el about 6 weeks ago. Took me a full day (working on my own). Hardest part I found was probably getting the box itself in, cause it kept wanting to fall off the jack. For the pedal, I had a Mal Wood clutch pin, which bolts into the standard auto pedal box, and I ended up just cutting the brake pedal down to size, heaps easier than changing the pedal box itself.

 

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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 7:29 am 
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Geez, why do people keep asking about the ECU? FFS, its been posted eleventy billion times that you DONT NEED a manual ECU to convert your car to manual. Two resistors, worth less than 5c for both is all you need to fool the auto ECU into believing the slushbox is still there.

Edit - maybe I shouldn't complain. If people want to spend money, why should I try to stop it, I may start supplying manual ECU's with two additional resistors installed :)
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