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 Post subject: Re: 91 oct, 95 premium, 98 ultimate BP comparison
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 10:42 am 
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my eb runs great on 91 95 or 98, i just avoid ethanol petrol at all costs!


91 is 10% ethanol blend.


Not here it isn't......they must be labeled that the fuel contains 10% ethanol.
The BP servo on Albert st. here, has a couple of bowsers that are all 91RON fuel, but the 10% ones are marked with a sticker....as well as the hand-piece.

 

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Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 2:51 pm 
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mobil and caltex around my area still sell std 91 unleaded.. and e10
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Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 3:38 pm 
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Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 5:06 pm 
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quite alright! at worst the car runs ok on 91 without ethanol, when im flush i use 95 or 98, figuring that the average ron would be 96 or 97 lol
stupid logic i know but it works for me!
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Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 6:16 pm 
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i just spent over a few hours down my fuel depot-privately owned,all fuels can have up to 5% ethonol and OTHER sh@t to enhance ron figures and avoid taxes on premium fuel,and do the green thing to keep the polies happy-----not stated at pumps.they make a 95 ron enhanced-91 + ethonol = 95 ron with a rubber conditioner added---not required,but they do it.in the process they mash wheat stalks and husks and make O2--sold to BOC GASES,ETHONOL,MEDICINAL ALCOHOL-2 GRADES-PHARMACUTICALS,BREWERS MASH--BEER MANUFACTURE=========NO WASTE,PLENTY OF $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ EFFICENT.
ON ANOTHER NOTE-the ower went to brazil to check out the local set up where they used 85% and now 100% ethonol in the cars,they use sugar cane to make it and dump the slurry,or use it as fertilizer.there is a piggy back ecu to compensate timing and other issues,some of the cars used in the busness run on 85 ethonol and have big numbers travelled.






















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 Post subject: Re: 91 oct, 95 premium, 98 ultimate BP comparison
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 10:58 pm 
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I can only speak from the BF perspecitve but i run mine on E10 and works fine (mind you says its fine on the petrol flap), I am still able to smash stock BA turbos in a drag. I am thinking once i have done my mods and time for a tune i might look to run it on premium, its just the price hike is so high its hard to justify the performance gain


Phil the only thing you seem to be able to smash is your own wang. Probably couldn't smash the wrinkly bit of s**t in the hole even with visual instruction. Remember. Middle 2 fingers and up and down, not in and out and you too can be as good as Axel Braun :lol:
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 Post subject: Re: 91 oct, 95 premium, 98 ultimate BP comparison
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 11:05 pm 
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Maybe the guy in the turbo was letting him win, Probally the guy in to turbo didnt wanna see his sad face when he flogged the s**t out of him

 

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 Post subject: Re: 91 oct, 95 premium, 98 ultimate BP comparison
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 11:08 pm 
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If you want your fuel with a mixture of sugar juice, keep running 91. I prefer to purchase 100% fuel. Alot of service stations post mix fuel these days, saves the need for 2 or 3 tanks.


Dont know about this post mix business you speak of, but 98 is just 91 with octane booster (actually more hydrocarbons or whatever from the refinery) dumped in to get it to that level

 

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 Post subject: Re: 91 oct, 95 premium, 98 ultimate BP comparison
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 11:17 pm 
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I always thought that 91 was a more "raw" (i.e. not as refined) fuel as 98.
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Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 11:39 pm 
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I always thought that 91 was a more "raw" (i.e. not as refined) fuel as 98.


I get the same impression but perhaps that's just very good marketing from the fuel companies to make you think that plus the crap government

As for your other post i am not going to respond because we have moved on, plus you and the other guy are moderators, I would have thought you would take a more diplomatic approach/accepting to a comments rather than taking the childish/dissing route.

Anyways I am tired of discussing this, I will not be commenting any further on beating BA turbos but simply replying to any questions about fuels

 

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If you want your fuel with a mixture of sugar juice, keep running 91. I prefer to purchase 100% fuel. Alot of service stations post mix fuel these days, saves the need for 2 or 3 tanks.


Dont know about this post mix business you speak of, but 98 is just 91 with octane booster (actually more hydrocarbons or whatever from the refinery) dumped in to get it to that level



Quite a few older single tank stations have an external mixing system, the fuel itself is the same its the additive that gets put in with it, weather it mixes benzine or ethanol or rubber assistants as it comes out of the tank and before the physical pumps. Just a way of retrofitting without having to either baffle or replace underground tanks.

 

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 Post subject: Re: 91 oct, 95 premium, 98 ultimate BP comparison
Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 12:01 am 
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@dc_todd - wow that sounds so dodgy, would you think that still happens in metro or were you more referring to country/rural stations?

 

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I know this is currently happening in metro areas. I know of 3 service stations alone around kingsgrove and Bexley that have been and are currently doing this.

1 of the station operators has shown me the setup and explained how it all works. Appears all certified and authorised as well as everything was tagged and had a service book too.

But yep, i agree, dodgy as hell.

Just another reason I go brandname servos.

 

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 Post subject: Re: 91 oct, 95 premium, 98 ultimate BP comparison
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Octane boosters such as Benzine, and Toluylene are not legal to put into unleaded cars....they poison the CATs.
You look at how much it costs to add booster to a tank of fuel....it ain't worth it.....so a little servo isn't gunna do the postmix thing....they'd be running at a loss.

 

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i have found that bp ultimate has Methycyclopentadienyl Maganese Tricarbonyl which is a lead additive that also raises octane.. in return has turned my spark plugs rusty red...
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