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Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 12:14 pm 
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does the manifold wiring of the 4.0lt mpfi simply plug into the wiring from the ecu or are cfi and mpfi wiring from ecu to engine bay different?

 

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Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 1:49 pm 
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hey dude, i got the 4ltr out of a eb or ed into my EA SII but mine was allready mpfi so i wouldnt know!

Sorry i cant help you out mate!
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Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 4:46 pm 
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You can't use the CPI loom, as MPFI has a loom for injectors, TPS, ISC, and other stuff. You will need to get the loom for it, and also the ECU. Also you'll need yo change your fuel pump, as the CPI one is no good for MPFI (not with mine anyway). The MPFI fuel pump will go straight in, try and get one from an EL,whole cradle.


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Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 5:57 pm 
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i know that you cant use the manifold loom i want to know if the mpfi manifold loom will plug into the loom that goes to the ecu!i have the manifold and loom and want to know if they will plug into my cfi engine bay plugs... any help?

 

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Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 9:04 pm 
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Try looking here:

http://www.ford-tech.com/articles.php?articleId=46

 

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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 12:12 pm 
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what about me with the 3.9 mpfi if i was to change to the 4.0 ould i need to change anything over?
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 5:24 pm 
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madeaspack wrote:
i know that you cant use the manifold loom i want to know if the mpfi manifold loom will plug into the loom that goes to the ecu!i have the manifold and loom and want to know if they will plug into my cfi engine bay plugs... any help?


It will plug straight in but the wires will need to be re-arranged for the different pin layouts. Also you will need to extent the grey and white wire on you cpi's indle motor up to the ecu side of the injector harness plug and alight it with the grey white wire on the mpi manifold loom, if that makes any sense. The plug going to the gearbox also need to be altered but i cant remember what i did to it, its all writen in that article on ford-tech. Hope that hlps some

 

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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 5:25 pm 
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what about me with the 3.9 mpfi if i was to change to the 4.0 ould i need to change anything over?


Nope, should all swap over nicely.

 

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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 5:36 pm 
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bogan393 wrote:
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what about me with the 3.9 mpfi if i was to change to the 4.0 ould i need to change anything over?


Nope, should all swap over nicely.


Depends by what you mean in swap, complete 4.0L motor (up to ED), the throttle body has a different plug for the TPS and some others are slightly different, no big deal, but be aware.

If you mean just motor and you will put your manifolds etc on the engine then not a problem at all, you could put an AU motor in if you like. (Au motor requires a few mods, like grinding of sump for a start)

 

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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 5:50 pm 
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a complete 4.0 motor like an el ef.... is wut id want...tho au would be nice to costly tho. i dont think id bother with the ed i dont think it would be worth it
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 6:32 pm 
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im putting complete eb engine in including manifold

 

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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 7:34 pm 
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bogan393 wrote:
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what about me with the 3.9 mpfi if i was to change to the 4.0 ould i need to change anything over?


Nope, should all swap over nicely.


Depends by what you mean in swap, complete 4.0L motor (up to ED), the throttle body has a different plug for the TPS and some others are slightly different, no big deal, but be aware.

If you mean just motor and you will put your manifolds etc on the engine then not a problem at all, you could put an AU motor in if you like. (Au motor requires a few mods, like grinding of sump for a start)


Also to run the manifold off ef or newer you will need a el ecu which requires smartlock to sun, which im guessing your ea doesnt have.

 

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Ive got a series 2 EA GL which has an EB 4.0L in it. i have recently converted it to MPFI also. as the others have said the motor it self will bolt straight in. to convert to multipoint use the EB manifold and throttle body and use a Series 2 EA MPFI manifold loom join the 2 EA TPS plugs into one ED TPS. the ED multipoint looms have different pinouts to the EA so its easier to use an EA loom.

 

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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 6:43 pm 
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so if i use an ae multipoint loom it will all just plug in?and can you please explain about the ed tps???

 

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