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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 9:16 pm 
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hi guys, when my ed 4.0l engine goes or if something goes wrong with the head and it works out cheaper to put a au 4.0l engine in i want to do that.

i get the idea that the sump has to be shaved a little to get it in but i want to know how i can bolt the ed 3 belt setup to the au engine.

please dont just say troymans post as it doesnt have enough information on using the 3 belt setup with the au engine.

please supply pictures on au engines setup with the 3 belt system.

can i have full instructions and and as many pictures as possible on the au engine change using 3 belt setup. i searched and searched but no information on using the 3 belt setup so if i can have that information that would be great
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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 9:37 pm 
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I think it wouldnt be difficult provided u use all the ED stuff including the waterpump as that is different also

 

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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 9:46 pm 
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can i please have photos and full instructions on doing the au engine job using the eb2/ed 3 belt setup and

i need instructions on using the ed harmonic balancer and marking the line and making it fit the au engine can i have instructions on mounting the ed alternator/pwr steer pump/aircon pump.
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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 9:49 pm 
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Talk to troyman... as in message him, he used to have it running on his AU engined EA until he upgraded to the single serpentine.

To be honest I don't see why you wouldn't just mount some fans and run them off a thermal switch... makes life a whole lot easier.

 

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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:47 pm 
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fairmont1 wrote:
can i please have photos and full instructions on doing the au engine job using the eb2/ed 3 belt setup and

i need instructions on using the ed harmonic balancer and marking the line and making it fit the au engine can i have instructions on mounting the ed alternator/pwr steer pump/aircon pump.


have you looked at the au into ea conversion thread?
im pretty sure you have asked me this before??

the power steering pump is a direct fit,the water pump is a direct fit,
the aircon pump will fit but you need to make 2x 12mm spacers for the top bolts.
the harmonic balancer is a direct fit. to get the right timing marks you need to get the engine onto tdc by rotating the engine by hand with no spark plugs and put a pencil into the no1 cyl and rotate slowly and you will feel the piston push the pencil up and when its all the way up(at the highest point) its at tdc.
now mark the balancer in line with the point on the timing case. this will be your tdc.
now depending on what ecu your using? if your using el ecu the base timing is set at tdc. and if your using ed ecu you just set it aprox 10mm before the line this should put you in the ball park so to speak..

with the alt bracket you need to be creative..
here are a few pics for you..

 

 

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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 11:40 pm 
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hi, also will a ed xr6 ecu work in a ed fairmont 4.0l and will the fairmont goodies work incuding power windows/climate control and trip computer
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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 11:47 pm 
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hi, also will a ed xr6 ecu work in a ed fairmont 4.0l and will the fairmont goodies work incuding power windows/climate control and trip computer


yes it should be fine
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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 11:52 pm 
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so does the AU block have some slight mounting point differences in the alternator bracket area???

 

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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 12:11 am 
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yep
in the above pics you can see the ed alt bracket and the silver bracket is what i made to extend it to meet up with the au mounting points.

the silver bracket is bolted to the ed one to make it longer
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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 12:17 am 
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Oh by the way, there is no reason why you can't run the complete AU setup with thermos... the ED's are compatable with R134 aircon gas so no rooting around having to swap everything to make the system compliant... you should be able to plug everything in.

I don't think you have much to do at all;

Grind the sump to get it to fit.
Swap over the alternator plug to suit the AU model.
Swap your lower thermostat housing with your original one (so you still have your temp gauge).
Run your standard engine harness, manifold and distributor.
Run EF/EL thermos using a thermofan switch kit. ($50)

And you're done, seriously why root around getting it to fit when its so much easier to run with the serp setup.

 

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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 10:14 am 
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i already have thermo fans and as i have to get ac regased i wanted to save gas but will it matter by the time the engine or head goes to regas again and will i get my moneys worth of the gas by the time the head/engine goes.

is the e series xr6 got better heads than normal e series
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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 10:30 pm 
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TROYMAN wrote:
im pretty sure you have asked me this before??

He's asked everyone these same questions before. Via random PM's to multiple members, multiple threads on this forum, and across multiple ford related forums under a number of different usernames.
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