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 Post subject: Auto to Manual
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 1:20 am 
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Hey Guys,

I am thinking of changing my Auto gear box over to a manual gear box. How hard would that be and how much should I set a side for this project.

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 Post subject: Re: Auto to Manual
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 1:37 am 
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Not too hard. Box, pedal box, fluid line and ecu. Ecu needs to be flashed by Fraud. Depending on where you get it from, about $3000

 

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 Post subject: Re: Auto to Manual
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 1:43 am 
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Where would u recommend I get the ECU from. I was thinking of Autobahn or somewhere like that
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 Post subject: Re: Auto to Manual
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 1:46 am 
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Adz_10 wrote:
Hey Guys,

I am thinking of changing my Auto gear box over to a manual gear box. How hard would that be and how much should I set a side for this project.

Cheers
Adz_10


For what kind of car?

anything pre AU is easy as pie.. AU I am pretty sure you need the proper ecu for the car to run properly and BA there is dramas as you need the ECU BEM ICC etc from all the same car (and possibly loom) to convert properly...

Search the forums via the search button to find the BA info. But I am 95% sure it is a big headache.

Geoff

 

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 Post subject: Re: Auto to Manual
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:18 am 
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you would probably get better responces if you posted this in the driveline section of this website.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Auto to Manual
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 11:09 am 
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Froudey wrote:
Adz_10 wrote:
Hey Guys,

I am thinking of changing my Auto gear box over to a manual gear box. How hard would that be and how much should I set a side for this project.

Cheers
Adz_10


For what kind of car?

anything pre AU is easy as pie.. AU I am pretty sure you need the proper ecu for the car to run properly and BA there is dramas as you need the ECU BEM ICC etc from all the same car (and possibly loom) to convert properly...

Search the forums via the search button to find the BA info. But I am 95% sure it is a big headache.

Geoff

BA you only need the ECU, Ford can make it work. Where in Brisbane are you, as I have a mate who did the first BA manual conversion years back. As the first we discovered what was do-able and not.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Auto to Manual
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 2:20 am 
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hey mate, i've done the manual conversion too, and according to 67rce i must be about the second to have done it (though im sure there would have been others before both me and 67rce's mate, that don't use the forums)

Anyway, what you need.
gearbox, bellhousing, crossmember, sandwich plate, yoke, tailshaft, flywheel, clutch, pressureplate, pedalbox, fluid reservoir, centre console surround and boot, shifter and knob.
Then there's the ecu and wiring loom. I have the manual ecu and wiring loom, but apparently ford can use the auto loom and ecu - HOWEVER - when ford tried to line up the ecu for my car they couldn't find the ecu map for the manual, so they tried to use the auto ecu. They couldn't get that to work, so they ended up searching for the right ecu map for the manual, then it worked flawlessly.
There are literally thousands of ecu maps form BA-BFII, so finding the right one is quite difficult.
My ecu has the sticker for the 3 letter map on the side, but has the 2 letter map encoded on the ecu.

you do not need the ICC or BEM from the donor car, ford just has to make the ECU talk to the ICC and BEM in your car. provided they have the right map, it's not hard.

If you seriously want a manual conversion, send me a PM. I have a COMPLETE T5 conversion with 30-35,000 km on it, so its barely broken in.

I have too many projects going at the moment, so it's just collecting dust... The Bedford is almost done, then the Firebird will have preference, then the Boat, but the race car always seems to jump to the top of the queue... But considering we won the state championship this year, i guess it's allowed to..
After all thats done, i'll start looking into putting a BA motor and (If i still have it) the manual box into an escort or something similar.. just need a few more hours in the day..


Anyway, i hope this helps.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Auto to Manual
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 3:01 am 
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MaTTeB, IIRC you did your manual conversion just after Ken did his, to the OP, if you need a hand from someone who has done the conversion, PM me or samftr

 

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 Post subject: Re: Auto to Manual
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 8:31 am 
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Adz_10 wrote:
Where would u recommend I get the ECU from. I was thinking of Autobahn or somewhere like that



didnt realise autobarn made ecus for fords lol

 

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 Post subject: Re: Auto to Manual
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 2:24 pm 
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maybe they have aftermarket?
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 Post subject: Re: Auto to Manual
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 7:35 pm 
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i no certian holdens, like vr, and vs etc, repco sells the ecus for them, after market version

 

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Posted by Xcabbi, Does it slap or rattle? Rattle is more to do with timing chains and tensioners. Slap is more to do with lifters, rings, bearings or GENIII boat anchors

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