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Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 4:02 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: BA e-gas engine on unleaded
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 2:26 am 
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mate i am no expert however the engine is more or less the same apart from some internals.

once you bolt on your manifolds & accessories you should have really good power (much better than the 156kw e-gas).

Get the car tuned by a tuner as well.
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 Post subject: Re: BA e-gas engine on unleaded
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 6:11 am 
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The petrol motors from the BF's used the same internals from the egas motors incase you didn't know. Haven't heard of any turbo cranks but I think they come with the flat top pistons, higher comp and perhaps better rods.
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 11:38 am 
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 Post subject: Re: BA e-gas engine on unleaded
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:06 pm 
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wont be to friendly without a flash tune, untuned with compression that high will give you detonation/pinning even on premium...
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 4:02 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: BA e-gas engine on unleaded
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 4:05 pm 
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ford_ba17 wrote:
yeah i found out in the bf's the VCT is different because the ECU has the dual VCT functionaries in it, the ba one doesn't - (they operate in sync with each other). So essentially it wouldn't make a difference as long as I use my BA ECU and wiring. Other than that the STD egas has a smaller throttle body and runs of a mixer, not very performance orientated at all, reliable though, yes.

Basically you will have an eGas engine which will also be running on ULP.

the injected LPG setup should like the higher compression.

Since you will be using your original inlet/exhaust manifolds i will think you will get some good KW's at the end of the day.

I would seriously get the car tuned though & make sure you get it tuned using 98RON PULP.

I did that with my AU S2 I6 Fairlane.
950 KM PULP
650 KM LPG

All i had was extractors & air intake mods - as well as a tune.
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 2:00 am 
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 Post subject: Re: BA e-gas engine on unleaded
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:13 am 
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ford_ba17 wrote:
definitely, i might have a chat to a tuner or two and see where good results may be obtained.
that's really good mileage, did you have to compromise performance at all?

JMM in Tottenham had got the VCT engine to produce 143RWKW from memory after the mods. I think he said stock is about the 105RWKW (from memory).

The injected gas wasnt as powerful when compared to PULP but it was only very marginal.

Both fuels worked a treat with never any backfiring & issues like the old mixer & ring setups that i previously owned/used.

FYI: The above figures were highway (Melb - Adel & vice versa) & not city driving.
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:37 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: BA e-gas engine on unleaded
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:12 am 
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i have an 80L tank from memory. 60 odd litres of usable LPG.

you should be able to get way better milage out of a BA sedan when compared to an AU Fairlane.
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:05 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: BA e-gas engine on unleaded
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:46 pm 
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ford_ba17 wrote:
that's decent nonetheless. if i had've gone factory gas i think it's a 93L tank/s you're given.
still no complaints with having a 53L LPG tank and 68L petrol tank.

going to have a chat with a gas tuner, the pity is i have a very rarely used system. installed by boemo engineering or something.

shout out to anyone out there wanting to cheap out on an injected gas system, go a reputable or mainstream one, makes it so much easier tuning wise.

Mate you don't get the gas tuned (well you do but read on) when i mentioned go to a tuner i meant a proper tuner that puts the car on a Dyno machine. Once he gets it all correct you will probably need a J3 chip (not 100% sure) or a flash tuner.

The LPG's computer runs in conjunction with the main ECU. At least this is true for my setup.

Just to let you know i also had my system purchased from BOEMO but it was installed by someone else (Rightway Motors in Sunshine 3020 on Fairbairn Rd - Charlie is his name). BOEMO are quite good. They're one of Melbourne's leading LPG installers & have been around for quite sometime.

Anyhow the tuning of the LPG ECU will only be efficient once you tune your cars main ECU. The tuning of the LPG ECU is quite easy & even you could do it.
I've tuned my LPG ECU manier times & all you need is the software (easyJet) & a USB cable that connects to the LPG ECU. You can buy them on eBay UK for around $60 delivered.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/AutoGas-Italia-LPG-GPL-CNG-Programming-Interface-Tuning-Kit-usb-connection-/360504040603?pt=UK_Cars_Parts_Vehicles_Other_Vehicle_Parts_Accessories_ET&hash=item53efb71c9b&_uhb=1

I believe i have the AutoGas Italia EasyJet Kit with Jet 18 type LPG injectors. These were sold under a few different names as well but they all used the same Autronic AJ1xx LPG ECU & the same brand injectors.
http://www.autogasitalia.it/db/cat2.asp?lan=eng&id=53
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 7:07 pm 
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 7:35 pm 
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if you can hold your foot steady on the accelerator for around 4 - 5 minutes keeping the revs @ 3000RPM's & also be able at the same time turn the A/C on & off as well as the headlights then trust me you can tune the LPG ECU.

that's all is needed to be done to tune it :)

It's piss easy bud.

Also which size LPG injectors do you have?
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