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 Post subject: BA motor into BF
Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:04 pm 
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I am needing to temporarily install a BA motor into a BF with a six speed auto.
I am assuming that the only differences are likely to be the Transmission oil cooler mounting.
I assume that the crank is the same and I will be able to use the six speed flex plate on the BA crank.
Anyone done this or have any ideas on doing this?

 

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 Post subject: Re: BA motor into BF
Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 10:46 pm 
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I'd hazard a guess there won't be a problem bolting up the auto to the BA motor, after all the BF's got both kinds of autos.

I'd say you'll run into some wiring differenced on the engine, BF's got dual knock sensors, extra O2 sensors etc. Surely other stuff I don't remember right now.

 

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 Post subject: Re: BA motor into BF
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 7:55 am 
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Good points, not worried about the wiring and the mounting of the dual knock sensors should be easily fixed. Forgot that there are BTR's behind some BF's so mechanically that should be OK. Still a question about the ZF oil cooler though.

 

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 Post subject: Re: BA motor into BF
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 3:25 pm 
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They run through the radiator like the BTR's.

Only "R-Spec" FPV's (special model F6, and the GT40th and Cobra) got an additional trans cooler.

 

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 Post subject: Re: BA motor into BF
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 10:33 pm 
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Not quite, mine at least runs a heat exchanger on the side of the block near the starter. My trans oil never reaches the radiator. It takes coolant through it to both warm the fluid on startup and cool it at operating temps. Not sure where the coolant comes from which is where my question is coming from.

 

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 Post subject: Re: BA motor into BF
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 11:30 pm 
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Learned something new today.

6's get a block mounted heat exchanger as you say, 8's run it though the radiator.

 

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 Post subject: Re: BA motor into BF
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 10:09 pm 
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Not sure it's a I6/V8 thing or introduced after yours was made

 

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 Post subject: Re: BA motor into BF
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 10:12 pm 
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twase wrote:
Not sure it's a I6/V8 thing or introduced after yours was made


I checked the workshop manuals, it's what the 6's get.

 

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 Post subject: Re: BA motor into BF
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 10:32 pm 
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Did you notice where the water lines come from?

 

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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 11:13 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: BA motor into BF
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:17 am 
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Just a note on the water lines in the picture above, this still shows the transmision thermostat which for no longer make. You just permantly connect the cooler to the heater lines.
fordmods-technical-documents-diy-f38/ask-papa-smurf-t82779-1320.html
Have a look here for what I mean.
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 Post subject: Re: BA motor into BF
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 10:37 pm 
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Thanks guys, that is the information I needed and in pictures too.

 

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 Post subject: Re: BA motor into BF
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 5:41 pm 
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that also helps me with my leaky trans thermostat in my bf :D

plastic thermo housings.... :roll:

 

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 Post subject: Re: BA motor into BF
Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 7:40 am 
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Short of it is if your only changing the basic motor you will be fine, i have a BF and a BA motor here and cant find any visual differences. Have tried to put a BF BOSS V8 into a BA and it was just a pain in the a**
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fordnz wrote:
Short of it is if your only changing the basic motor you will be fine, i have a BF and a BA motor here and cant find any visual differences. Have tried to put a BF BOSS V8 into a BA and it was just a pain in the a**


You're doing it wrong. :lol:

The differences are internal/electrical. Internal make no difference to fitting one up, the electrical can be overcome by using the loom from the receiving vehicle (BF got more sensors and such to meet Euro3 emissions).

 

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