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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 9:29 am 
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What do you think of this I,m thinking 20kw plus

 

 

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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 9:37 am 
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it would look good with 2 turbos on the other sideand then youll see some power

 

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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 10:07 am 
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This would be an easier conversion than the dual throtlebody set up I've seen on the cast bbm,from memory I think the gain was around 18kw.The bbm was desined for 2v heads 15yr's ago!Does anyone know how the internals of the FG manifold work?I know the runner length is equal but not sure how the plenum chamber works
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Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 11:05 pm 
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where did you find this pic? is it a ford option?
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Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 11:14 pm 
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is that not the fg engine? didn't think the fg had the twin setup. Definitely looks like the fg manifold though

 

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 Post subject: Re: Barra twin throttle body
Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 11:29 pm 
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its definatly a fg motor, can tell by the rocker cover, and the plastic intake, but as far as i know no ford six has ever had a twin throttle setup... all the fg's ive seen dont have this.... makes me wonder how 3 smaller ones would perform :)

 

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Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 11:58 pm 
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Looks like it could be a photo shop, check out the condult coming off the first throttle body.

 

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Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 12:13 am 
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http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11256813

yes seems like its a chop. Good one at that.
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Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 10:08 am 
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I'm surprised more / something hasn't been done by anyone about setting up dual TB (one small, one big) setup on the BBM.

Many years ago I saw an article where various single TB's and even an extensively engineered twin carb setup were dyno'd on a worked Holden V8 - the setup that won out - and by a BIG margin - was dual Group A TB setup - which is a small and large type of thing.

BMW M3 uses a TB on each port - that's a 3.6 L straight six making something like 236KW...

 

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Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 10:23 am 
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its a photo shop of this..

 

 

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Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 11:11 am 
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That Group A VN TB setup was designed by Walkinshaw as part of the SV5000 Walkinshaw machine.

A lot of people don't realise it, but those engines were / are pretty much full house racing engines - built in England - fully blue printed and with some really tricky stuff like eccentric ring grooves (keep the pistons centred in the bores) and all sorts of other goodies - and the ECU has a jumper wire which when cut raises the rev limit to something like 8 grand - and the engine is built to take it.

Unfortunatley, like any REAL performance engine it's made to rev and makes power above 3000rpm - so it's capabilities are lost on most meatheads who never go above 2500rpm.

I laughed my a*** off a few years ago when I came across a youtube where some idiot had replaced the orignal "sluggish" Walky engine with some POS backyard fully sick moit holden 5 litre...

 

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Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 2:06 pm 
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rhys.c wrote:
http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11256813

yes seems like its a chop. Good one at that.


You mean a bad one, get in close and you can see all the errors

 

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Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 7:31 pm 
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Greenmachine wrote:
That Group A VN TB setup was designed by Walkinshaw as part of the SV5000 Walkinshaw machine.

A lot of people don't realise it, but those engines were / are pretty much full house racing engines - built in England - fully blue printed and with some really tricky stuff like eccentric ring grooves (keep the pistons centred in the bores) and all sorts of other goodies - and the ECU has a jumper wire which when cut raises the rev limit to something like 8 grand - and the engine is built to take it.

Unfortunatley, like any REAL performance engine it's made to rev and makes power above 3000rpm - so it's capabilities are lost on most meatheads who never go above 2500rpm.

I laughed my a*** off a few years ago when I came across a youtube where some idiot had replaced the orignal "sluggish" Walky engine with some POS backyard fully sick moit holden 5 litre...


A friend of mine as one of those engines in his shed with two great big holes in the block with bits of conrod hanging out that proves they can not rev that high and stay together.

 

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Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 8:36 pm 
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Ouch!!

 

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Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 10:56 pm 
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madmax wrote:
rhys.c wrote:
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yes seems like its a chop. Good one at that.


You mean a bad one, get in close and you can see all the errors


Nope, fooled enough people didnt it. Manifold itself looks great.
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