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 Post subject: Bizarre...full battery, no power???
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 8:37 pm 
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COuldnt find anything searching, & theres no elec. section, so here will have to do.

I have a cracked head, been losing water thru a cylinder, out the tailpipe.
Sometimes, mainly mornings, the EBII wont turn over, i assumed it was a buildup of water
in a cylinder causing resitance or sumthin. I would get a tyre iron, put it between the bolts
behind the fan, turn it a bit..it would start.
Tried it again tonight, i heard a click, i think down the left side of the engine somewhere, now
theres no power. I turn to acc, lights are on, turn to start, all power goes.
tried a jumpstart from a mate, it turned a little, then went blackout again.
Fiddled with the Neg battery terminal, noticed the interior lights came on, so I tried again,
key in all good. . . . .start-blackout.
My battery has 13.9V

All this after i spent 100bux on chemiweld, new thermo, flush, 15L Agrade coolant etc. today for the crack.
Ive shorted something havent I? or bad earth. Any advice on where to start my search PLEASE, as i know this could be anywhere.
Fuses or relays?
I just dont know enough yet.

Thanx a heap if anyone can help, I cant win 2day.
matt
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 Post subject: Re: Bizarre...full battery, no power???
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:16 pm 
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Sounds like you poor old Starter has died...

Trying to start a water locked engine wouldnt be helping issues either....
I would remove all the plugs before starting the engine and putting in the chemiweld....

thinks its time to replace/fix that engine hey.....

 

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 Post subject: Re: Bizarre...full battery, no power???
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:34 pm 
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AU99 wrote:
Sounds like you poor old Starter has died...

Trying to start a water locked engine wouldnt be helping issues either....
I would remove all the plugs before starting the engine and putting in the chemiweld....

thinks its time to replace/fix that engine hey.....

as above,remove the plugs,crank to remove the water,replace plugs and fire lt up,drive about 100ks to set the chemi weld.you cant compress water,but you can break or bend the pistons and rods.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Bizarre...full battery, no power???
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:04 pm 
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Damn, wish i'd thought of the plugs before.lol

And i dont have chemiweld, itscalled- CarGo Metallic SealUp.
I have to flush all coolant out, as it aint compatible with glycol,
Fill with water, and the SealUp, drive for half hour or until problem is fixed,
go home drain again, refill with coolant. And new thermostat, just in case. :roll:

As for the power blackout(with a fully charged battery), can I test the starter before removal?
I need power to crank the darn thing.

thanx guys
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 Post subject: Re: Bizarre...full battery, no power???
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:18 pm 
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matman72 wrote:
Damn, wish i'd thought of the plugs before.lol

And i dont have chemiweld, itscalled- CarGo Metallic SealUp.
I have to flush all coolant out, as it aint compatible with glycol,
Fill with water, and the SealUp, drive for half hour or until problem is fixed,
go home drain again, refill with coolant. And new thermostat, just in case. :roll:

As for the power blackout(with a fully charged battery), can I test the starter before removal?
I need power to crank the darn thing.

thanx guys

plugs out-it will spin water out to make room for petrol.6 cly water pump.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Bizarre...full battery, no power???
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:32 am 
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Try putting your finger on the curcuit board left of steering colum under dash. Common prob apparently
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 Post subject: Re: Bizarre...full battery, no power???
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:32 am 
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Now Ive shorted something(again. . .my guess) in the starting system. I can get power until I turn the key onto start, and everything blacks out, i fiddle with the wires near then Neg. battery terminal, and the power restores. So, i have to find the short, before putting in my spare starter motor huh? :roll:
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:37 am 
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You'll find it's the circuit board, i haven't looked at mine to see why it does it but i'll get to it one day.. Tikll then i just shove the finger on
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:42 am 
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thanx prattmaster, but that went over my head, I cant think staright with all this crap goin on, i need to fix this so i can get to a funeral 2moro.
Im a layman, better known as 'dumbass', withh this stuff.
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 Post subject: Re: Bizarre...full battery, no power???
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:42 am 
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:51 am 
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Just to the left of the steering colum under the dash theres a large circut board if u turn on the ignition then run your finger over the board it will start, me and me mates thought starter motor then someone showd us this trick
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 Post subject: Re: Bizarre...full battery, no power???
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:03 am 
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And this is with the key turned to to start, with no power?
man if its that easy(for now)ill praise you man.
At least ill be able to get to an auto elec.
Its an EBII, my car, you think it will have this board?

thanx again mate
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 Post subject: Re: Bizarre...full battery, no power???
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:28 am 
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I'd say they have the same or similar i'm new to fords was allways a holden man but s**t happens.. If its a manual doesn't matter or auto have it in park...
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 Post subject: Re: Bizarre...full battery, no power???
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:31 am 
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Tried Park and Neutral, in fact, when trying random things
after changing gear, it powered on again, but that only happened once :?
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 Post subject: Re: Bizarre...full battery, no power???
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:43 am 
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Personally i would be inclined to look at the fuel pump/ecu relay, located under the radiator header tank. They are known to fail and cause similar problems.

Do your interior lights work, if so, then it isnt the smartlock module.

Good luck
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