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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 6:15 pm 
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Hey.

I have been looking into cam and chip packages recently. Anyway chip torque have a package with crow cams combining a CROW 2222549 (1100-4400 RPM) cam and HP4 chiptorque chip. All parts required delivered to my door for $1080

Attached is the dyno graphs they sent me. Now IGNORE the absolute ratings becasuse I don't want this to turn into a dyno power figure debate. But does this look like a good option for my EL manual with intake and exhaust mods.

I know an aftermarket ecu on the dyno might get better results but it will cost at least 3 or 4 times as much before I will get the driveability I want out of it.

They said if I do a dyno run and record the A/F ratio's then they can re-tune for $100 a pop to try and get it better.

What are ppl's opinions on these chip's ,experiences etc. Does anyone have this package???

 

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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 1:22 am 
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not too bad if you dont want to go too much further and your happy with it

i had that exact package, and it was good. Untill i upgraded stuff, now i have a stand alone programable ecu

moral of the story, good if your goin to keep it that way and spemd a little extra on the tuning ;)

 

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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 1:39 am 
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Yeah sounds good. I might look into one of them.

 

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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 11:43 am 
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SVO XR6 wrote:
not too bad if you dont want to go too much further and your happy with it

i had that exact package, and it was good. Untill i upgraded stuff, now i have a stand alone programable ecu

moral of the story, good if your goin to keep it that way and spemd a little extra on the tuning ;)


How would you describe the difference from standard. More power everywhere? or were there some idle and drivability issues? Did you have to get it re-tuned and what was the difference? Did you get it dynoed and do you have a graph you can post up?
Thanks.
I don't think I will be going much further in mods than this.

 

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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 11:46 am 
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You know a lot of xr6's and other stock engines pulled that+higher reading with or without cams on the syd dyno

plus thats a dyno-s**t dynamix. not exactly overwhelming results from my view sorry!
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 11:53 am 
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Like I said, ignore the absolute ratings, I think dyno discrepancies have been argued enough.

But relative 96-124Kw is a good 30% improvement. While it doesn't seam to have as much mid-range as an XR6 it's still got more mid than a stock car.

 

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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 12:30 pm 
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Go Unichip (more versatile) and Wade 1636 (torque plus for auto)

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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 12:36 pm 
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i never ran the cam without the chip, so wouldnt know

but all it would do is richen/lean AFR's.
basicaly you would be silly to cam a car without adjusting fuel/spark maps, waste of time

 

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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 12:53 pm 
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I type of got that feeling after getting it done.
Wade 1604 you could get away with but I found the gain really small.

 

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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 4:02 pm 
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That unichip/wade combo looks like a smaller gain overall.

How much was it?

Doesn't a unichip just modify the input sensor signals? Or does it directly control injection/spark. How much for first dyno tune?

SVO XR6 - Can you tell me how the car actually drove with the cam and chip combo?

 

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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 7:07 pm 
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like any cammed car
thirsty, noting below 2000rpm :P

 

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