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 Post subject: cam installation on a el/ef
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 7:06 pm 
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could some 1 plz give me a step by step giud to installing my new cam

 

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 Post subject: Re: cam installation on a el/ef
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 7:15 pm 
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documents.php?d=59

Maybe we need a Wiki...................... :shock:
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 Post subject: Re: cam installation on a el/ef
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:41 pm 
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ok came across a little predicament the new cam i got has been regrounded so i need to put more shims right? and if so how many just an extra 1 and are shims the metal circle inside the tip of the rocker arm plz some 1 help also the cam tensioner chain weres the bolt to decrease tenshion on chain so i can swap the cams or is there anouther way to do it the doco up from this post dosnt go that much into detail also what torqe is needed for bolts on rocker

 

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 Post subject: Re: cam installation on a el/ef
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:53 am 
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SWC wrote:
Maybe we need a Wiki...................... :shock:

snap0964 wrote:
Most of the basic stuff has been covered here numerous times - most people though are too lazy to search for it - they'd rather be spoon fed.

 

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 Post subject: Re: cam installation on a el/ef
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 9:56 am 
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the most effective way to get that cam in the engine is to stand infront of the engine, if your right handed stand with your left foot slightly forward, get the cam in your right hand and raise it just above your head and throw it as hard as you can, you need to throw it hard enough to get it through the rocker cover, so it might take a few attempts ,once it breaches the cover your done... happy motoring....


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sorry i could help my self.... im having a silly day.....
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 Post subject: Re: cam installation on a el/ef
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:06 am 
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SWC wrote:
http://www.fordmods.com/documents.php?d=59

Maybe we need a Wiki...................... :shock:


Even with a wiki, they will probably still ask rather than search. FM search by all means isn't the best, but it still works. Even using google with fordmods.com as the website tag will get you a lot of hits!

You can read this head gasket document...has camshaft installation in it, using a regrind. Ignore the tensioner bit, still need to fix/refine that.

fordmods-technical-documents-diy-f38/head-gasket-doco-t99962.html

For the tensioner, look at these threads...

ford-4l-and-6-cylinder-f1/timing-chain-tensioner-t117619.html

ford-4l-and-6-cylinder-f1/timing-tensioner-troubles-t95193.html

ford-4l-and-6-cylinder-f1/timing-chain-tensioner-seal-t99338.html

 

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 Post subject: Re: cam installation on a el/ef
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 6:14 pm 
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bryce67 wrote:
ok came across a little predicament the new cam i got has been regrounded so i need to put more shims right? and if so how many just an extra 1 and are shims the metal circle inside the tip of the rocker arm plz some 1 help also the cam tensioner chain weres the bolt to decrease tenshion on chain so i can swap the cams or is there anouther way to do it the doco up from this post dosnt go that much into detail also what torqe is needed for bolts on rocker


A few points for you to consider...........

1) Punctuation is a wonderful thing, it allows us normal people (or not so normal) to understand what you are trying to say.

2) Yes you need 2 shims per rocker, your original one and an additional one.

3) If you arn't sure what a shim is, don't touch the cam............

4) Buy a workshop manual, it contains all the information you require.
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 Post subject: Re: cam installation on a el/ef
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 6:17 pm 
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phongus wrote:
SWC wrote:
http://www.fordmods.com/documents.php?d=59

Maybe we need a Wiki...................... :shock:


Even with a wiki, they will probably still ask rather than search. FM search by all means isn't the best, but it still works. Even using google with fordmods.com as the website tag will get you a lot of hits!


To Phong & Snap

My reference to the "Wiki" was sarcasim as I was 1 of the few that upset the OP in that original "WIKI" Thread. I just can't help myself :twisted:
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 Post subject: Re: cam installation on a el/ef
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:41 pm 
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SWC wrote:
phongus wrote:
SWC wrote:
http://www.fordmods.com/documents.php?d=59

Maybe we need a Wiki...................... :shock:


Even with a wiki, they will probably still ask rather than search. FM search by all means isn't the best, but it still works. Even using google with fordmods.com as the website tag will get you a lot of hits!


To Phong & Snap

My reference to the "Wiki" was sarcasim as I was 1 of the few that upset the OP in that original "WIKI" Thread. I just can't help myself :twisted:


There's a wiki thread?

 

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 Post subject: Re: cam installation on a el/ef
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:47 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: cam installation on a el/ef
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 12:36 am 
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SWC wrote:
To Phong & Snap My reference to the "Wiki" was sarcasim as I was 1 of the few that upset the OP in that original "WIKI" Thread. I just can't help myself :twisted:
Hence why I quoted myself from that thread. :wink:

Just don't scare away newbies that have some ideas and want to be proactive.
They're a rare commodity around these neck of the woods . . . . . .

 

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 Post subject: Re: cam installation on a el/ef
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:39 pm 
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I have noticed alot of the guides have got the lifter assembly using tape to hold the hydro shims in place

I ended up moving the arms upwards so there about straight into the air then bolted the assembly in gently and moved the rocker arms down so the shims go into place ( already fitted)
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 Post subject: Re: cam installation on a el/ef
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:45 pm 
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its easy to keep the rocker arms pointing straight up.......... that is until theyre resting on the lobes of the cam which pushes them over and lifters falling out everywhere

tape is king, just remember to pull each bit of tape off before you tighten the bolts too much or you cant pull the tape out :lol:
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 Post subject: Re: cam installation on a el/ef
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:58 pm 
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FordFairmont wrote:
its easy to keep the rocker arms pointing straight up.......... that is until theyre resting on the lobes of the cam which pushes them over and lifters falling out everywhere

tape is king, just remember to pull each bit of tape off before you tighten the bolts too much or you cant pull the tape out :lol:


Hmm i must have got real dam lucky then
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