Fordmods Logo

Camshaft/ECU question 

 

Page 1 of 2 [ 16 posts ] Go to page 1, 2  Next

 
 Post subject: Camshaft/ECU question
Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 11:54 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline

Age: 29

Posts: 2563

Joined: 19th Feb 2007

Gallery: 21 images

Ride: 98 EL Futura

Power: 199 rwkw

Location: Lilydale
VIC, Australia

Gday, Im just wondering how other peoples cars are going when puttin new camshafts in them?

I use to have a Wade 1502AU cam in my car and it went great. But the only time it seem to go really good was when you reset the ECU.

I just put the Wade 1671AU cam in my car and that is going even harder again. But have the same issue, what happened was; when i got the camshaft first put in the car, it went like the clappers and everytime i would try boot it, it would light the tires up straight away, after a few weeks the power seems to dampen down and the midrange starts to get dowie. When i reset the ECU (leave battery disconnected for an hour) and then go for a drive it has picked up the strong mid range responsiveness it has before.

Is this because of it not being tuned maybe? and the ECU is being reset back to the factory default and when it tries to relearn itself it dosn't do it correctly?

Has anyone found the same thing with the car at all?

I have had my car booked in a few times to get the chip put in an tuned but he has had problems with his computer and it is booked back it for the 22nd. Im hoping the chip will fix the problem.

Cheers

 

_________________

EL Futura: CVE head, Wolf V500, ICE Ignition and Coil, 36lb injectors, Walbro 255lb, Paci comps, 3" exhaust, T5, Harrop Truetrac with 3.9s. Now with 198.9rwkw, (~185rwkw and 13.80 @99.1mph) with more power to come

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Camshaft/ECU question
Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 8:31 am 
Getting Side Ways
Offline

Age: 29

Posts: 454

Joined: 31st Mar 2005

Gallery: 8 images

Ride: 05 XR6 Mk II Falcon Ute

Location: thornton
NSW, Australia

how much it cost u to get ya cam fitted???

 

_________________

EL Futura 5 speed factory:PH47FL goneeeee :(
04 BA XR6 Mk II Sedan: XR67OY gonneee..
2010 250R ninja: gooneeee.
BF 2007 F6 typhoon:F6FOON gonnnee.
05 BA XR6 Mk II Ute: latest

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Camshaft/ECU question
Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 10:20 am 
Fordmods Junkie
Offline
User avatar

Posts: 11739

Joined: 17th May 2005

Gallery: 11 images

Ride: EL Fairmont, VFR400 racer

Power: 144 rwkw

Location: Melbourne
VIC, Australia

I would think it's a tuning issue. I have found that my car does go smoother with a reset ECU, not sure why though and my car is not tuned either.

Cam is going well...no problems so far.

phong =P~

 

_________________

phongus = Post whore 2006
EL XR6 motor, EL ECU + J3 chip, WADE 1673 Camshaft, 3" S/S intake, Pacy 4480, 2.5" Hi flow cat, 2.5" Lukey exhaust.
Max Power = 144.6 rwkw (03/05/2008)

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Camshaft/ECU question
Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 4:35 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline

Age: 29

Posts: 2563

Joined: 19th Feb 2007

Gallery: 21 images

Ride: 98 EL Futura

Power: 199 rwkw

Location: Lilydale
VIC, Australia

clampy wrote:
how much it cost u to get ya cam fitted???


It cost $250

phongus wrote:
I would think it's a tuning issue. I have found that my car does go smoother with a reset ECU, not sure why though and my car is not tuned either.

Cam is going well...no problems so far.

phong =P~


Ok cool, hope the chip will sort the problem out.

 

_________________

EL Futura: CVE head, Wolf V500, ICE Ignition and Coil, 36lb injectors, Walbro 255lb, Paci comps, 3" exhaust, T5, Harrop Truetrac with 3.9s. Now with 198.9rwkw, (~185rwkw and 13.80 @99.1mph) with more power to come

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Camshaft/ECU question
Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 4:45 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 40

Posts: 747

Joined: 16th Dec 2008

Gallery: 1 images

Ride: AU2 75th Anniversary Futura

Location: Adelaide
SA, Australia

The ecu is a learning computer. Every time you reset your ecu, it removes the 'learning' memory you had prior to resetting. After about 100km of resetting your ecu, the ecu learns the way you drive your car based on the engine mods given and slowly forces itself to run smoother according to factory specs.

A custom tune of some description is basically your only option to get around this, and even then you will need tuning maintenance every now and again as the ecu will force itself to store things in its learning memory.

Thats my take on it. Correct me if Im wrong

 

_________________

Cheers
Shav

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Camshaft/ECU question
Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 2:06 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 35

Posts: 1775

Joined: 10th Jul 2007

Gallery: 8 images

Ride: BFII Turbo

Power: 253 rwkw

Location: Waurn Ponds
VIC, Australia

The AU computer is the most advanced of all the SOHC ford sixes. It detects that it is making too much power, and alters its ignition timing and fuel load to try and scale it back to where its meant to be.

Every AU engine that has a cam shaft should get a flash tune minimum. this overwrites the factory setting and remains as long as you have the program loaded, no need for resets.

costs about $700 for a new flash tuner and then depending on where you take it another $500 or so for custom tune. You should really get a custom tune as it unlocks even more power from the engine and parts you have installed while possibly improving fuel economy.

good to hear the 1671 is powerin on gezza, mines still sitting in my room. no job = no funds for zoom zoom.

 

_________________

enough isn't enough

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Camshaft/ECU question
Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 3:29 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 33

Posts: 1442

Joined: 26th Apr 2006

Gallery: 6 images

Ride: 97 EL XR6

Power: 162 rwkw

Location: liverpool
NSW, Australia

your spot on Grimketel
AUs need to be tuned after a cam change, not like the e-series where you could put some big mofos in them and they would cope, a bit rich, but ok!

 

_________________

07 BF MKII XR6T
310rwkw @ 13psi - Tuned By CMS

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Camshaft/ECU question
Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 4:38 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline

Age: 29

Posts: 2563

Joined: 19th Feb 2007

Gallery: 21 images

Ride: 98 EL Futura

Power: 199 rwkw

Location: Lilydale
VIC, Australia

ok, mine still has the E-series ECU though, so not sure what is going on?? maybe its not to do with the cam.

 

_________________

EL Futura: CVE head, Wolf V500, ICE Ignition and Coil, 36lb injectors, Walbro 255lb, Paci comps, 3" exhaust, T5, Harrop Truetrac with 3.9s. Now with 198.9rwkw, (~185rwkw and 13.80 @99.1mph) with more power to come

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Camshaft/ECU question
Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 4:45 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline

Posts: 6166

Joined: 8th May 2007

get a J3 and custom tune & should be sorted. Thats assuming all the sensors, filters & ignition components are up to scratch
Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Camshaft/ECU question
Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 7:36 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline

Age: 35

Posts: 1353

Joined: 15th Mar 2007

Gallery: 7 images

Ride: AU XR6

Power: 171 rwkw

Location: thornton
NSW, Australia

GeZza200 wrote:
ok, mine still has the E-series ECU though, so not sure what is going on?? maybe its not to do with the cam.



Even though it is an e series it runs the EEC V computer. It's almost the same as the au version but with not quite the built in tuning capabilitys. Due to this it will behave like an au when you put a cam in. If you get a chip you will reduce your issues.

 

_________________

9/98 AU1 XR6hp-about to retire from the road and be reborn on the race track.
86 ZL mint grandpa spec with premo sound and 150000km
07 TTG 60000km stock as, mods to come.
97 el futura about to be MOCKed

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Camshaft/ECU question
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 4:13 pm 
Smokin em up
Offline

Age: 30

Posts: 250

Joined: 18th Apr 2009

Ride: ba mk2 xr8

Location: nyngan
NSW, Australia

where did u get your cams from and how much
Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Camshaft/ECU question
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 4:18 pm 
Smokin em up
Offline

Age: 30

Posts: 250

Joined: 18th Apr 2009

Ride: ba mk2 xr8

Location: nyngan
NSW, Australia

where did u get your cams from and how much
Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Camshaft/ECU question
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 5:59 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline

Age: 35

Posts: 1353

Joined: 15th Mar 2007

Gallery: 7 images

Ride: AU XR6

Power: 171 rwkw

Location: thornton
NSW, Australia

spinner1987 wrote:
where did u get your cams from and how much



Was that directed at me? If so waggots contact details are in my sig. can't remember how much exactly, but it was cheaper than crow for a billet and they will do a regrind for you.

 

_________________

9/98 AU1 XR6hp-about to retire from the road and be reborn on the race track.
86 ZL mint grandpa spec with premo sound and 150000km
07 TTG 60000km stock as, mods to come.
97 el futura about to be MOCKed

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Camshaft/ECU question
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 6:35 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 35

Posts: 1775

Joined: 10th Jul 2007

Gallery: 8 images

Ride: BFII Turbo

Power: 253 rwkw

Location: Waurn Ponds
VIC, Australia

its an el hybrid, it may have the same self learning capabilities as the au series.

does it have an OBD port under the dash in the fuse box like an au does?

 

_________________

enough isn't enough

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Camshaft/ECU question
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 7:36 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline

Age: 35

Posts: 1353

Joined: 15th Mar 2007

Gallery: 7 images

Ride: AU XR6

Power: 171 rwkw

Location: thornton
NSW, Australia

I was told the el EEC V was only a 20 pin/port ecu(can't remember the term that was used) like the rest of the e series cars. The au is a 40 pin/port item. Falcons didn't go to obd system till the au.

 

_________________

9/98 AU1 XR6hp-about to retire from the road and be reborn on the race track.
86 ZL mint grandpa spec with premo sound and 150000km
07 TTG 60000km stock as, mods to come.
97 el futura about to be MOCKed

Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:
Sort by  
 Page 1 of 2  [ 16 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: johnnyeHCF and 18 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

 

 

It is currently Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:31 pm All times are UTC + 11 hours

 

 

(c)2014 Total Web Solutions Australia - Australian Web Hosting and Domain Names