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 Post subject: Re: car sumtimes starts???
Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:06 pm 
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yeah the wires that disconnect the starter and prevent from starting... When the smartlock thingo is blinking that relay is opened preventing the starter solenoid from engaging (by hot wiring or the sort)

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As I see it your actually doing the hard part for them... Unless you've got your own fail safe installed? Like a button you have to hold in to start (ie a broken injector pulse or something and once started the relay holds in helping injector pulse)?

 

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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:11 pm 
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hey guys was wondering if i replace my BCM can i put in a higher model one from say a fairmont? this weekend ill be looking at it and be seeing if i can solder them two wires together that was mentioned before... what are the dwon sides of me just soldering these wires together rather than replacing it?
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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:22 pm 
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i just thought i'd post my HELPFUL tip up. but if noone wants to be use it fine by me

 

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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:24 pm 
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Actually I do appologise... the ED has separate smartlock module and BEM... Do the EF/EL models have both modules in one?

if so you will find it hard to replace with a high series unit (assuming your and EF driver) as the BEM's on the Ef's have a different amount of plugs/or pins for the class variants (low, mid and high series) plus you'll need the wiring and modules to go around it (Ie the dimmer for the dash works different on a EF/EL high series to a EF/EL mid series (I think, not 100% sure for EF/EL variants?))...

But I am fairly sure you would be able to straight swap with a high series...

like I said down side is I am nearlly positive you removing the smartlock immobilisation (or part of it?) by doing this...

We all know smartlock is far from perfect... So is any mass rolled out immobilisation system installed in cars really... Once you know how to beat one you can steal all cars of that sort the same way...

The best system for immobilisation really is something you devise and install that no criminal will be able to work out (something out of the normal that takes more time to diagnose)... If the simple trick they used last time don't work then they aren't likely to spend too much time on it for fear of getting caught...

 

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 Post subject: Re: car sumtimes starts???
Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:28 pm 
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i just thought i'd post my HELPFUL tip up. but if noone wants to be use it fine by me


no need to be like that... it definitely works... I 100% agree to that... its a simple cheap solution to the problem and guaranteed never to fail again...

I was always under the impression your undoing what smartlock does thats all? Although I'm not 100% familiar if the circuit isolates anything else on top of the starter?

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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:34 pm 
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wait im stil confused on which 2 wires to solder guys? pictures mayb?

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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:38 pm 
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it's either blue with red stripe or red with blue stripe. one goes into the BCM and the same colour come back out. same plug. just bare both wires. solder a bit of wire between the two and it'll start fine

 

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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:45 pm 
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ahk now i ge ya mate ill try that on the weeknd...just any old wire?
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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:46 pm 
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ahk now i ge ya mate ill try that on the weeknd...just any old wire?


half decent wire would be better. not just some wire you had kanging around

 

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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:50 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: car sumtimes starts???
Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:55 pm 
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nah EF. same colour. yeh i'm like 80% sure its reb with blue trace

 

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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 10:13 pm 
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they do have the smartlock and BEM in the one module? under the heater controls?

 

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Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:48 am 
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Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 8:03 pm 
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so nalane its them wires i solder?
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Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 8:12 pm 
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these little tricks about joining wires etc are normally only mentioned in pm's, as dodgy people do get on sites to learn ways around security
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