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Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 5:42 pm 
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Hi All,

That Taurus ebay thing is wrong... the 94 taurus has a shorter belt.. (unfortunately)

Turns out I need a GMC Suburban
Belt Multi Acc Feb 1998 - Jan 2001, 6.5L, 8 cyl, 16V, OHV, Turbo, Diesel, K8, EngCode: FCWG belt..


Dayco over east sell them..

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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 2:32 am 
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Have you tried that 6pk2570 part number with Repco or Burson type of distributors in WA or your local parts supplier yet?
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:35 am 
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yes, I called supercheap, repco and coventries..

Still have Veale to go yet, but not so good so far.

Repco do Dayco, but not this model..

I could go do a holden dealer and pick one up for a Suburban.. and will if that is all I find, but think the Dayco could be the better option if I can find a dealer for them over here.
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 5:07 pm 
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Veale down the street has one for a surburban for 55 bucks..

Dayco 6PK2565 belt..

sweet.. I guess that is the cheapest one I'll get in Australia...
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 10:15 pm 
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dude, the length of the belt is part of the part no:

the xPK (4pk, 5pk 6pk) is the number ribs. 4PK has 4 ribs. the number that follows IS the length. just add 15cm to that number and ask for the belt by part number and not by make and modle

 

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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 1:35 am 
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I know that dude,

I wanted to find a "standard" belt to use, that way should I ever by somewhere (like the country) that doesn't stock non standard sizes.. I'll be able to get a belt to suit.

Now that I know that the size I want is the standard belt for a holden 6.5lt suburban.. I know that all I need to do in an emergency is find the nearest holden dealer.
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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 4:05 pm 
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OK, I bought the belt 6pk2565.. it turns out that for the method I was planning, my original estimate was more correct than the measurement.. if it had been only 6 inches longer than standard, I'd have been fine.. since I got 8 inches, one tensioner would not have been enough

However, it's serendipitous as it turns out that it caused me to rethink the way to do this, and my new method uses the full length of the 2565 belt and has the following benefits.

- uses the standard belt tensioner as an actual tensioner.
- doubles the contact with the main crank pully.
- Much closer to the original setup.

Still have to use the EA-ED air con guide pulley, but it should be fairly simple and may actually weld up to the supercharger mounting plate. Still have some measuring to do, but this should work out nicely.

Wish there was a way to lock the factory tensioner in it's compressed state, would be easier to work with.

My problem now is the air con belt.. just how much contact does the air con need to avoid slipping? It's a bigger pulley, so it spins slower and there is still 4 inches of belt contact.. that should be enough I think.. not sure. I guess we will see.
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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 9:56 pm 
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I think there are spray on products to stop belts from slipping. I mention this because it might be handy during the testing phase, because your setup might seem fine at first, then just when you're a long way from home a change in air temp, or wearing in, or dust, or moisture, or some combination, might somehow generate a problem for you.

 

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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 10:31 pm 
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I'd be really really surprised if the supercharger slipped since it has a good deal of contact to the belt.

My only concern is that the air con might slip if turned on as it has less than it did.. but then again, I don't imagine air compressors need as much force to spin as a supercharger..

I have some of that belt grip stuff... hoping I won't need it.
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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 12:01 am 
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frankieh wrote:
I'd be really really surprised if the supercharger slipped since it has a good deal of contact to the belt.

It sounds like you're onto it. I have heard though that people often understimate how much they resist turning.


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My only concern is that the air con might slip if turned on as it has less than it did.. but then again, I don't imagine air compressors need as much force to spin as a supercharger..

Oh yeah, of course . . . turning the a/c off should help if need be.

 

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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 1:01 am 
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I was sad to discover that an electric clutch ala air compresser or SC14 wouldn't work with an M90 as it would slip...

I had visions of setting up big bypass piping electronically switchable and being able to turn it off and on like Mel gibson in Mad Max..(which was bogus because theres no way to bypass it when its mounted to the valley of a V8.
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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 9:01 pm 
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Could your engine management system adjust to turning it on and off anyway? It would be good if it could, but . . .

I seem to recall toyota's MR2 having a disengageable supercharger, i think it disengaged during idling?

 

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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 2:13 am 
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much smaller charger (sc14) and it used an air con type clutch.. would not work on an M90.. it would chew the clutch up.
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:12 am 
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just caught up with what ya doing the belt has to be 6pk that the profile of the ribs , anything else will slip , measure what you need by putting a drill bit in the hole of the spring tensioner to lock it in postion , get the lenght in inches and order the belt from summit racing about 40 bucks here in about 3 days , done too easy, and that includes freight , i dont buy anywhere else

 

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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:10 pm 
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Thanks Paul,

The Holden Surburban belt fits great and it is a 6pk

I achieved my goal of using off the shelf parts so they will always be readily available even in the country when out driving.
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