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 Post subject: CMS stage 2 or Wade 1673
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 5:31 pm 
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i have a manual xh hybird engine anyone got a reccomendation for me on these cams i cannot decide on which one i am going to get a j3 chip when i order one i already have 3.7 diff gears. Which one has more mid to top end power and toughest idle
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 Post subject: Re: CMS stage 2 or Wade 1673
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 5:34 pm 
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Well I would go for the 977B from Wade over the 1673, especially since you have short gears + manual, cant comment on the CMS cam though.

 

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 Post subject: Re: CMS stage 2 or Wade 1673
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 6:08 pm 
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none of them have a 'tough' idle

both cams are great........ ive ran the 977b and found it to be the best Wade cam for a daily driver
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 Post subject: Re: CMS stage 2 or Wade 1673
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 6:18 pm 
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FordFairmont wrote:
none of them have a 'tough' idle

both cams are great........ ive ran the 977b and found it to be the best Wade cam for a daily driver


okay then what other mods did you get to support the 977b did you need stiffer springs etc.
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 Post subject: Re: CMS stage 2 or Wade 1673
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 7:12 pm 
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chip & tune, crow XR6 springs, 3.7 gears when manual, 4.11 when it was high stalled auto, machined head with AU gasket bumping up compression

all these amounted to 156rwkw in manual form and went very nicely. The wade 1521a had more power up top, but had noticably less down low compared to the 977b
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 Post subject: Re: CMS stage 2 or Wade 1673
Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 12:59 pm 
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sweet but how will it drive untuned cause i will have to drive it from sunny coast to brisbane about 100km to get it tuned as i dont now if there is a place around here that can take care of that for me
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 Post subject: Re: CMS stage 2 or Wade 1673
Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 1:16 pm 
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will be fine mate, just that it will run a bit rich, and the idle will hunt up and down...... probably turn the throttle body screw in half a turn just to stop it from stalling on the way there

its not a mighty big cam, but the hunting idle can get frustrating. I drove 150km to get mine tuned, it was fine
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 Post subject: Re: CMS stage 2 or Wade 1673
Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 9:40 pm 
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well all i can say is that i had the cms stg2 and have never had a wade beat me yet! and now i'm running the cms stg2A and that goes even better.. :D picked up 40rwnm on just cam change very happy with that :D :D

 

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 Post subject: Re: CMS stage 2 or Wade 1673
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 10:50 am 
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well all i can say is that i had the cms stg2 and have never had a wade beat me yet! and now i'm running the cms stg2A and that goes even better.. :D picked up 40rwnm on just cam change very happy with that :D :D


Every car is different though, you have a s**t load of torque which will help you.

 

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 Post subject: Re: CMS stage 2 or Wade 1673
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 11:37 pm 
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Any camshaft awakes these engines.
But for me i have the Wade cam 977B making 151rwkw & 423rwnm. :D
Very happy with this cam. Makes power & torque all over the rev range.
Max power at 5000rpm & flattens out after that.
Great mild cam for every day. :wink:

 

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 Post subject: Re: CMS stage 2 or Wade 1673
Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 11:15 pm 
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Hi guys do you reckon your final drive is the reason you beat a Wade?? I only ask because i rival V8s with the usual mods with an AU1645 and were do you get CMS cams? i cant find nothing if there really that good i might look at getting one?

 

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 Post subject: Re: CMS stage 2 or Wade 1673
Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 11:17 pm 
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Hi guys do you reckon your final drive is the reason you beat a Wade?? I only ask because i rival V8s with the usual mods with an AU1645 and were do you get CMS cams? i cant find nothing if there really that good i might look at getting one?

 

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 Post subject: Re: CMS stage 2 or Wade 1673
Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:34 am 
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there is so much that goes together to get a car to actually perform in terms of speed over a certain distance...
at the end of the day you could match up the cams in a group of 'stage 1' style groupings and they would perform in a similar fashion.
of course there will be differences though

 

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 Post subject: Re: CMS stage 2 or Wade 1673
Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 1:02 am 
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So i guess it comes down to what i want it for!! :wink:

 

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 Post subject: Re: CMS stage 2 or Wade 1673
Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 1:20 am 
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thats it!
choosing a cam is really hard.
you sort of have to ask for reviews on certain cams and then make your own mind up about which one suits you

 

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