Fordmods Logo

conversion to E85 

 

Page 1 of 1 [ 11 posts ] 

 
 Post subject: conversion to E85
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 11:37 am 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 25

Posts: 493

Joined: 21st Sep 2010

Gallery: 3 images

Ride: BA XR6

Location: sydney
NSW, Australia

ok now fuel prices are sky rocketing as you all know, so ive briefly looked over at the benefits of converting to E85.
from what ive gathered a $500 dollar part is installed between your injectors and ecu, to tell the car to spit in more fuel. and after about 1000 kms of new driving on E85 you need to replace your fuel filter, as the alcohol cleans the tank and that causes the filter to clog.
correct me if im wrong but from what ive gathered E85 is like LPG in the sense you chew more fuel but its cheaper to fill up, however unlike LPG you gain power for E85
has anyone done this before or know any info about a conversion?

 

_________________

BA XR6
Performance mods: typhoon + territory pipe with K&N filter, full exhaust, BPR generic tune, lowered, xr6t front brakes, territory rear brakes
Visual mods: 19" rim, lower grill mesh, oil pressure and vacuum gauges, engine bay lighting, foot well lights
some of my main mods

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: conversion to E85
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 11:41 am 
Getting Side Ways
Offline

Age: 34

Posts: 3406

Joined: 7th Feb 2005

Ride: AU2 Ute

Location: melbourne
VIC, Australia

$500 part?

The octane is higher so there is benefits to tuning. You need rougly 30 percent more e85 compared to regular petrol for the same distance.

Work out the maths.

You could probably use a J3 chip, bigger injectors and a dyno tune instead of the new $500 part and get more power.

Some people say its corrosive and will eat away at your rubber lines. Others dont.

Im not sure what to beleive but it isnt common enough for me to worry about.
Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: conversion to E85
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 11:46 am 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 25

Posts: 493

Joined: 21st Sep 2010

Gallery: 3 images

Ride: BA XR6

Location: sydney
NSW, Australia

http://www.flexfuelkits.com.au/ thats one example of what the offer, it alows you to switch between petrol and E85 or blend mixes in between. that corrosion of the rubber is due to the alcohol as you would guess, but since the phase in of E10 most cars have rubber components that are more resistant to alcohol.

 

_________________

BA XR6
Performance mods: typhoon + territory pipe with K&N filter, full exhaust, BPR generic tune, lowered, xr6t front brakes, territory rear brakes
Visual mods: 19" rim, lower grill mesh, oil pressure and vacuum gauges, engine bay lighting, foot well lights
some of my main mods

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: conversion to E85
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 11:53 am 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 25

Posts: 4599

Joined: 30th Aug 2010

Ride: BF XR6,

Location: NEWCASTLE
NSW, Australia

I put e10 in my car and a few months later the fuel pump so I stopped using it, got as nother car ran e10 for a while fuel pump died slowly in that, stoped running it and cars been fine ever since

 

_________________

BF XR6
xr8 snorkel,typhoon lower snorkel,territory intake pipe,20% underdrive kit,pacemaker extractors,high flow cat,xforce exhaust,t56 conversion hd turbo clutch/ flywheel,m86 3.45 lsd,custom tune187.1rwkw as an auto

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: conversion to E85
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 12:07 pm 
Fordmods Newbie
Offline

Posts: 6

Joined: 14th Feb 2011

Ride: BF XR6T

Location: Sydney
NSW, Australia

here is a excel calculator i made for e85.

there are benefits to power & economy if tuned for a turbo or high comp motor application DEPENDING on the price of the e85! also depending on the relative price of PULP, with e85 at 99c per litre its feasible, at 1.17 per litre (what caltex was selling eflex for)it becomes a decision based purely on power benefits due to the high octane.

 

 

Attachments:
e85 calculators.xls [23 KiB]
Downloaded 326 times
Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: conversion to E85
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 3:02 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline

Posts: 2410

Joined: 4th Sep 2006

Location: Sydney
NSW, Australia

U might as well just get a J3 and get it tuned for E85 as to get the full benefit, it also need's more timing and fuel on E85 so u need bigger injectors and fuel pump to suit.

 

_________________

Wanted Either Capri/Cortina/XY/XW/XR/XT with tough V8 stroker engine, auto, 9inch, upgraded brakes etc[/SIZE][/size][/color]

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: conversion to E85
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 3:47 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 40

Posts: 747

Joined: 16th Dec 2008

Gallery: 1 images

Ride: AU2 75th Anniversary Futura

Location: Adelaide
SA, Australia

As some have already said. E85 isnt a matter of chucking some in and away you go.

The things I needed to change to run it were:
* fuel pump (I have a Walbro 255)
* Injectors (I have 36lb)
* tune (I have SCT flash)

and then I could only run a mixture of E85/Eflex and 98 PULP. 40% E85 to 60% 98 premium. I have 36lb injectors and they are maxed out with the Eflex blend but after a tune I gained quite a good power increase. That was the motivation for me to use that fuel. I didnt do it for economy reasons. I also still have a lower tune to run normal 98 PULP as well.

I have yet to see what my fuel filter is like mind you. Will be doing that next service.

 

_________________

Cheers
Shav

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: conversion to E85
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 3:49 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 33

Posts: 1442

Joined: 26th Apr 2006

Gallery: 6 images

Ride: 97 EL XR6

Power: 162 rwkw

Location: liverpool
NSW, Australia

the saving is negligable, itll cost 30% less, but youll use 30% more

i wouldnt bother... even the power gains on an NA car will be marginal over 98ron...

 

_________________

07 BF MKII XR6T
310rwkw @ 13psi - Tuned By CMS

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: conversion to E85
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 4:43 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 46

Posts: 3763

Joined: 25th Nov 2004

Gallery: 6 images

Ride: EFII 5.8 NOS TerroristGhia

Power: 274 rwkw

Location: Sydney Australia
NSW, Australia

I will be using it on my build to meet the emmissions requirement for engineering. E85 removes 20% of total hydrocarbons which is a huge benefit to me with my cam.

Brett

 

_________________

The Terrorist ED Retired due to RUST.
The TerrosistGhia, EF Ghia 351 EFI 5 Speed.
Millennium Falcon, Sleeper EL DOHC 6 Speed Manual EFI LPG
Member#1131
I didn't Vote for Multiculturalism, DID YOU!!!

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: conversion to E85
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 7:27 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 25

Posts: 493

Joined: 21st Sep 2010

Gallery: 3 images

Ride: BA XR6

Location: sydney
NSW, Australia

now quick question everyone keeps saying get a J3, i briefly know what it is but can someone properly enplane it EG benefits, price

 

_________________

BA XR6
Performance mods: typhoon + territory pipe with K&N filter, full exhaust, BPR generic tune, lowered, xr6t front brakes, territory rear brakes
Visual mods: 19" rim, lower grill mesh, oil pressure and vacuum gauges, engine bay lighting, foot well lights
some of my main mods

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: conversion to E85
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 8:11 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 46

Posts: 3763

Joined: 25th Nov 2004

Gallery: 6 images

Ride: EFII 5.8 NOS TerroristGhia

Power: 274 rwkw

Location: Sydney Australia
NSW, Australia

A J3 is a chip/interceptor that plugs into an EEC4 or 5. It is then programmed to adjust your fuel and ignition curves, among other things.
Seeing as you have a BA, an SCT flash tuner will suit your needs.

Brett

 

_________________

The Terrorist ED Retired due to RUST.
The TerrosistGhia, EF Ghia 351 EFI 5 Speed.
Millennium Falcon, Sleeper EL DOHC 6 Speed Manual EFI LPG
Member#1131
I didn't Vote for Multiculturalism, DID YOU!!!

Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:
Sort by  
 Page 1 of 1  [ 11 posts ] 

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 12 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

 

 

It is currently Mon Dec 18, 2017 6:49 am All times are UTC + 11 hours

 

 

(c)2014 Total Web Solutions Australia - Australian Web Hosting and Domain Names