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Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 6:51 pm 
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funny, everyone saying this is a bad idea because itll heat up and cause power loss.

yet when people have asked about cooling their intake pipe with dry ice, or a cooling system the responce has been "the fraction of a second the air is in the intake pipe wont give it enough time to cool it at all:


There is a difference in these two cases.

If the air comming into the engine bay is 20 odd degrees, and the engine bay is 60 odd degrees (which will be the same temp a copper pipe will be at), that is a 40 degree difference. To get the same affect in reverse your talking about cooling the entire air intake to -20 degrees for the same 1.5-3kw power difference. Thats a fair bit of effort for a small gain which is why its not worth it.


how cold is dry ice?


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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 12:08 am 
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Hey Guy's, just joined.......Great forum, FORDS RULE............Copper???? why has no one yet discussed plastic? no real heat issues, weight?? nothing. Plenty of options. Genuine intakes are plastic.
Just a thought. :D
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 12:28 am 
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Thats why you're new and we're not :lol:

Just joking mate, welcome to the forums!

And Im sure plastic has been discussed, and I think Disco Frank is going for more originality than anything... but thats just my opinion.


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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 12:41 am 
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ffs u 2 get the f**k out of my thread!

stop arguing



LOL Well said
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 12:58 am 
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take the discussion on injectors and heat dissapation to off topic and leave franks plumping alone!

Seriously - no more arguing in this thread!

 

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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 1:02 am 
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Thanks for the welcome, Luv my ford.........lowered lowered lowered, LUV it.
Yeh just my opinion, Frank should do what he thinks is best.
Many years ago, we who were your age did all these (with carby cars..LOL) Cold air intakes, Cold fuel intakes and oh yeh, on a celica turbo we did refrigerated air intake ( the guy was an aircraft eng) man you should have seen this thing go. WRX would have nothing on this car.

Anyway i only mentioned plastic cause i have a mate who i helped replace metal for plastic, and by his account it's way better.
But each to his own.
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 1:09 am 
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Gerry_G wrote:
Thanks for the welcome, Luv my ford.........lowered lowered lowered, LUV it.
Yeh just my opinion, Frank should do what he thinks is best.
Many years ago, we who were your age did all these (with carby cars..LOL) Cold air intakes, Cold fuel intakes and oh yeh, on a celica turbo we did refrigerated air intake ( the guy was an aircraft eng) man you should have seen this thing go. WRX would have nothing on this car.

Anyway i only mentioned plastic cause i have a mate who i helped replace metal for plastic, and by his account it's way better.
But each to his own.


The plastics we have readily available in large diameter tubing do not lend themselves well to underbonnet applications. PVC ect. plus gluing is not as nice as welding, you cant polish plastic ect.
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 1:22 am 
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But you could paint them, or powder coat them.
No need for glue as all bends are in preform (rubber) and use clamp systems to keep them in place.

Anyway, it was just a thought.
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 10:12 am 
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BA plastic tubing fit and has mounting points
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 11:53 am 
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Hey Frank. Long time no see. hehehe

You could get it HPC coated when you're finished. That'd make a few ppl stop their comments about heat transfer through the copper.


hey man tis a long time!

i really dont care what they say :)


hows that bunky of yours? and were ya been hiding!


Mate my EL is still going strong. Plus I'm doing up a HX Holdung as well and of course there is the dragster.

As for hiding. I'm a moderator on the TBF forum, so it takes up most of the little bit of spare time I do have.

 

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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:11 pm 
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How is the intake coming along there Frank??

I want to see how it's come up. :)

 

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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 9:48 pm 
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Epitome wrote:
How is the intake coming along there Frank??

I want to see how it's come up. :)


been busy with work and s**t at home

hopefully have it test installed on sat and start of the polishing sunday

 

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All i am hearing is copper will transfer too much heat.

Why cant you get the internal copper coated with some high temp insulator paint.

The sort that i think HPC does to coat the inside of exhaust headers to keep the heat in the pipe and not radiate out.

Therefore the heat would not get into the air stream as the insulator paint is protecting the cooler air on the inside.

Not sure if i am throwing a bottle of metho on the fire here, but though i would query the argument.

You would still have the shiny copper look and also have internal insulation from the heat.
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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 2:29 pm 
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will copper last longer than say a plastic intake pipe?
more or less kilometres.
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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:45 pm 
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Falcon-enthusiast wrote:
will copper last longer than say a plastic intake pipe?
more or less kilometres.


MORE :)

they uses copper for gas and water in houses :)

copper gets put in the ground etc and lasts for YEARS :)

 

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