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 Post subject: Diff ratios
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 11:40 am 
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i curently have an auto ef xr6 with 2.5 inch extractors, high flow cat and a exhaust all the way through and a stage 2 cam shaft.

At the moment my diff acts like an open diff as its starting to wear out (originaly comes with a lsd.) and i want to ether get this repaired with a difrent gear ratio in it or replace it with a stock diff.

My question is if anyone knows where to get a stock diff from for a good price and what would be the best gear ratio for my car set up (currently on 3.45).

I want as much acceleration as possible but at the same time i dont want to clock out on a circuit.

Any information will be great. Thanks
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 2:39 pm 
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I can see this being a long thread.

Are you using the car as a daily driver, for racing or a weekend street machine? Going to a ratio above 3.45 means you need a speedo corrector to fix the speedo error. If you need acceleration above all else, use a 3.9 or 4.11 gear set. I had 3.7s with an auto and it was a good compromise between the the 3.45 & 3.9.

If you're LSD had been given a hard time and on the way out, it's probably better to get a reco one. I don't know what the charge for rebuilds.

 

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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 4:01 pm 
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lol I can see why this might turn into a long thread, but ye i got quoted for $715 (reco original diff) which i think is decent but i thought maybe the second option (getting new second hand diff) maybe cheaper.

The car is a daily/weekend street machine/ racer (i know im crazy for doing that but im a poor P Plater who cant afford 2 cars lol) but im not worried about fuel economy, i can live with dat.

I read on another thread 3.9 is the way to go but i wouldn't mind hearing anyone else's input on it.
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 4:31 pm 
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Go for the 3.9's. Awesome acceleration and still very drivable as a daily. Sits on about 2200-2300rpm at 100k's (speed taken from gps as im to tight to buy a speedo corrector)

 

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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 4:37 pm 
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izedso wrote:
Go for the 3.9's. Awesome acceleration and still very drivable as a daily. Sits on about 2200-2300rpm at 100k's (speed taken from gps as im to tight to buy a speedo corrector)


how much are these speedo corrector, and plus if you dident have one, dose it say your doing a faster speed or a slower speed?
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 5:02 pm 
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4.11's for a n/a auto 6

even those will be not enough to fix the s**t gearing of the autobox
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 5:43 pm 
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What kind of racing is it used for? If it is anything apart from quarter miles you're probably better off saving for a manual conversion and keeping your current ratio in the diff.

However if you want to keep auto go 3.9 or 4.11, you won't notice much difference in fuel around town, just a bit more on the highway. If you actually use it at the track I would consider getting a 4wd systems lokka, although legality of them is questionable (I tried getting an answer out of qld transport and they were useless), as much stronger than the s**t cone type LSD. They are a little harsh on the street but not as bad as having a locked diff and in my opinion worth it for the extra control on the track.

 

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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 2:29 pm 
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combes351 wrote:
izedso wrote:
Go for the 3.9's. Awesome acceleration and still very drivable as a daily. Sits on about 2200-2300rpm at 100k's (speed taken from gps as im to tight to buy a speedo corrector)


how much are these speedo corrector, and plus if you didn't have one, dose it say your doing a faster speed or a slower speed?


Jaycar sell the speedo corrector kit for $55 and youl have to assemble it. The speedo reading will be higher than what you're actually travelling at.

A GPS gives a correct reading when maintaining a constant speed, but if you're accelerating it doesn't keep up with you. Plus, you have to keep removing it every time you leave your car parked on the street.

 

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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 10:50 pm 
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What kind of racing is it used for? If it is anything apart from quarter miles you're probably better off saving for a manual conversion and keeping your current ratio in the diff.

However if you want to keep auto go 3.9 or 4.11, you won't notice much difference in fuel around town, just a bit more on the highway. If you actually use it at the track I would consider getting a 4wd systems lokka, although legality of them is questionable (I tried getting an answer out of qld transport and they were useless), as much stronger than the s**t cone type LSD. They are a little harsh on the street but not as bad as having a locked diff and in my opinion worth it for the extra control on the track.


I managed to get an answer out of QT in regards to Diffs, the result - If it allows Differential Action (i.e both wheels can spin at a different speed) then it is legal. As such, the 4WD Systems Lokka is LEGAL.

 

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Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 3:43 pm 
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Sweet...when I called up I got some useless chick who I doubt knew what a diff was.

 

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Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 8:39 pm 
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Go 4.11's you wont regret it, my friend made the mistake of buying 3.7's for his and ther was not much diffrence from the 3.45's, 4.11's will get you up n boogying. as for the lsd it will cost about $200 to reco the current one, or you could get a minispool (very annoying) but will never single until you break an axle.
i agrre with the other guys and get some sort of mechanical locker. expensive but good for all parts of driving.
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