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 Post subject: Re: Dropping a naked AU engine into an EL?
Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:09 am 
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Taking the sump off
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timing cover off ... oops broke a chain guide
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timing cover on the AU motor
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EL sump on the AU
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 Post subject: Re: Dropping a naked AU engine into an EL?
Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:11 am 
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wouldnt mine seeing some pictures, but i think the sump cut is the better option, then trying to put the ef sump on the au block as well as the timing cover, if you were going to go to all that trouble you mght as well just get a another ef engine to shove in

 

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 Post subject: Re: Dropping a naked AU engine into an EL?
Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:12 am 
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That second picture looks like its still the same sump. i thought e series had a metal sump and the au sump was alloy

 

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 Post subject: Re: Dropping a naked AU engine into an EL?
Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:15 am 
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put the wrong pic up but added a couple more

 

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 Post subject: Re: Dropping a naked AU engine into an EL?
Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:17 am 
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does seem to fit good, but i still think the sump cut is the better option

 

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 Post subject: Re: Dropping a naked AU engine into an EL?
Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:17 am 
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SV-Valiant wrote:
I documented it all with pictures if you want to have a look just do a search fitting Au motor into Ef and it shoul help you.


I've got some pics on a mates phone of what I did, just gotta get them off him.

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Taking the sump off

So you know all those bolts that go thru the side of the AU sump yeh? Theyre now kind of doing nothing :roll: Sorta defeats the purpose of an AU motor dont you think?

 

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 Post subject: Re: Dropping a naked AU engine into an EL?
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Taking the sump off
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timing cover off ... oops broke a chain guide
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timing cover on the AU motor
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EL sump on the AU
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more pics added

 

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 Post subject: Re: Dropping a naked AU engine into an EL?
Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:18 am 
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What does those bolts hold anyway??

 

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 Post subject: Re: Dropping a naked AU engine into an EL?
Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:26 am 
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Part of the structural integrity of the motor.... they go into the main bearing caps.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Dropping a naked AU engine into an EL?
Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:29 am 
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[quote="krisisdog]So you know all those bolts that go thru the side of the AU sump yeh? Theyre now kind of doing nothing :roll: Sorta defeats the purpose of an AU motor dont you think?[/quote]

Son milkshaked his El and we had a spare AU engine that had been sitting there for 2 years that I had scabbed bits off over that time... Had little funds to get another motor so just threw the AU motor in for as little cost as we could.... Didnt really know what the AU motor was like so just took a chance.....

 

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 Post subject: Re: Dropping a naked AU engine into an EL?
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ah ok cool, least i no now

 

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 Post subject: Re: Dropping a naked AU engine into an EL?
Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:38 am 
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krisisdog wrote:
So you know all those bolts that go thru the side of the AU sump yeh? Theyre now kind of doing nothing :roll: Sorta defeats the purpose of an AU motor dont you think?


Son milkshaked his El and we had a spare AU engine that had been sitting there for 2 years that I had scabbed bits off over that time... Had little funds to get another motor so just threw the AU motor in for as little cost as we could.... Didnt really know what the AU motor was like so just took a chance.....


Cut K frame, weld in some 4mm steel plates, done. I knew you could swap sumps if you swap covers, but its pointless.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Dropping a naked AU engine into an EL?
Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:42 am 
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I had done another AU into EL this way before but I didnt do the sump transfer as it had already been done... had been in the car by a previous owner for 12 months and son managed to kill it in another 12 months..... He was giving it a fair bit (was 18) what can I say......

but it wasnt through throwing a rod.... a welsh plug let go, and as he was only doing short trips didnt take notice of the temp gauge til the motor seized......

 

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 Post subject: Re: Dropping a naked AU engine into an EL?
Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:50 am 
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Well what would you suggest to the op of this thread, which is the best way of doing it, doing the sump mod / k frame cut or fiting the ef/el sump and timing case on

 

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 Post subject: Re: Dropping a naked AU engine into an EL?
Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:53 am 
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IF you go through a few motors... I would do the K-Frame cut....

otherwise its a line ball call......

 

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