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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 9:24 am 
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like this one

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll ... 4575467982

i know its ended, but they'd probably have more stock

so, are the plastic/brass ones as good as the plastic/aluminium ones?
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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 2:27 pm 
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yeah would like to know - i think that's where all of my water (i say water cause the coolant disappeared 3000k's ago!) is going!

 

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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 7:33 pm 
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As far as I know ADRAD are imported.

IMO plastic/brass would be better then plastic/aluminium as brass doesn't corrode.

 

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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 7:37 pm 
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i wouldnt use a brass one simply coz it doesnt corrode, same reason as why your not supposed to use all brass welsh plugs. if the brass doesnt corrode then it will just eat a way at the alluminium head. i dot know about you guys but id rather replace a $200 radiator compared to a head

 

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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 7:58 pm 
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Have a read of this folks:
http://www.are.com.au/feat/techtalk/ALUMRAD.htm

 

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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 8:09 pm 
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i wouldnt use a brass one simply coz it doesnt corrode, same reason as why your not supposed to use all brass welsh plugs. if the brass doesnt corrode then it will just eat a way at the alluminium head. i dot know about you guys but id rather replace a $200 radiator compared to a head



So your suggesting to use your radiator as a sacrificial annode. whats wrong with using corrosion inhibitor? and replace nothing.

 

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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 8:10 pm 
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Interesting read, you learn something new everyday.

 

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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 8:16 pm 
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As far as I know ADRAD are imported.

IMO plastic/brass would be better then plastic/aluminium as brass doesn't corrode.


says they manufacture as well
http://www.adrad.com.au/home.htm
also says they import, so who knows? ... i don't really have a problem with imported parts, half the falcon parts are anyway, long as they're quality

this is the only car i've ever had with an aluminium radiator, all the rest have been brass cores

i'm not worried about corrosion, only about durability
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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 8:26 pm 
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made a mistake in my last post, all my other cars have been copper cores, not brass


also looking further, ebay have aluminim, copper and brass cores it seems

interesting read voxace, i can see the advantages of aluminium, but it only if its maintained well, if it isn't, copper'd be the way to go i think, i've never had to replace a copper radiator in the past and never had overheating problems either
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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 8:54 pm 
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this is the galvanic table, it tells you which metals corrode fastest, lowest number is fastest

many grades of aluminium, highest number is 26, which i'm sure they don't make radiators out of

copper starts at 33

brass starts at 46

so, i'd say radiator aluminium alloy'd be a low number, you can see why it corrodes so fast

the table is in sea water http://www.eaa1000.av.org/technicl/corr ... lvanic.htm
obviously the worst scenario :)

tho i have used roadside puddle water once to get me out of the s**t :)
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this is the galvanic table, it tells you which metals corrode fastest, lowest number is fastest

many grades of aluminium, highest number is 26, which i'm sure they don't make radiators out of

copper starts at 33

brass starts at 46

so, i'd say radiator aluminium alloy'd be a low number, you can see why it corrodes so fast

the table is in sea water http://www.eaa1000.av.org/technicl/corr ... lvanic.htm
obviously the worst scenario :)

tho i have used roadside puddle water once to get me out of the s**t :)


I that case I want a gold one! :wink:

 

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madmax wrote:
nannas_ed wrote:
i wouldnt use a brass one simply coz it doesnt corrode, same reason as why your not supposed to use all brass welsh plugs. if the brass doesnt corrode then it will just eat a way at the alluminium head. i dot know about you guys but id rather replace a $200 radiator compared to a head



So your suggesting to use your radiator as a sacrificial annode. whats wrong with using corrosion inhibitor? and replace nothing.


yes and no, to me having the cheaper parts of the cooling system made of a more "less rusting" material is just silly. There are corrosion inhibitors on the market that do the job excellently and then there are just green liquids branded as corrosion inhibitors. all im saying is that id rather my radiator s**t its self as opposed to the head.

 

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i wouldnt use a brass one simply coz it doesnt corrode, same reason as why your not supposed to use all brass welsh plugs. if the brass doesnt corrode then it will just eat a way at the alluminium head. i dot know about you guys but id rather replace a $200 radiator compared to a head



So your suggesting to use your radiator as a sacrificial annode. whats wrong with using corrosion inhibitor? and replace nothing.


yes and no, to me having the cheaper parts of the cooling system made of a more "less rusting" material is just silly. There are corrosion inhibitors on the market that do the job excellently and then there are just green liquids branded as corrosion inhibitors. all im saying is that id rather my radiator s**t its self as opposed to the head.


Even so there is no garrantee that the radiator will suffer first instead of the head, could work the other way. The best solution is to ensure that quality inhibitors are used and the engine coolant is periodically checked for any stray currents (electrolysis).

Anyway after reading what voxace posted up I'll stick with a ally one.

 

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Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 8:35 am 
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I bought one off gman the rad man:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/FORD-EF-EL-XH-FA ... dZViewItem

Keeps a blown V8 cool. No problems with it yet...

 

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