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 Post subject: ED power steering shudder.
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 1:56 am 
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Hi guys, the ED still has power steer shudder even at speeds upto 20km.
Fitted new,not reco Pump+New hoses+Rack ends.

Still shudders,anyone have any ideas, could it be the pressure switch?

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 Post subject: Re: ED power steering shudder.
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:37 am 
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Can get a bit annoying eh? And sounds terrible.
I was told it was the pump so replaced it,then told it was the hoses=Nope!
Then the rack ends=nope!
Going to get a new pressure switch and see if that helps, I'm thinking maybe its a bit of all the above as it has got a little better with each new part.

 

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 Post subject: Re: ED power steering shudder.
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:45 am 
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Could it be air trapped in the system ???? I had this problem once with my BA xr6 after I picked it up from a service and I took it straight back and they told me the apprentice stuffed up changing the power steering fluid and it had air locks in the system.

Don't know how true this is but this is what they told me.
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 Post subject: Re: ED power steering shudder.
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:15 am 
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You are right Neilo about the air lock.

Quote:
Power Steering System Bleeding Air 6. While turning wheel, check fluid constantly.
NOTE: No bubbles are allowed.
CAUTION: You should bleed after any NOTE: For any sign of bubbles, recheck
component replacement or after disconnecting connections. Repeat step 5.
fluid line in case of steering system noise. 7. Start engine. With engine idling, maintain fluid Bleeding is important to prevent pump damage, to level. Reinstall cap. ensure proper system operation and to stop
steering system noise. 8. Return wheels to centre. Lower front wheels to
NOTE: Inspect steering system. Check, and correct ground.
as needed: 9. Keep engine running for two minutes.
Hoses must not touch any other part of vehicle. 10. Turn steering wheel in both directions.
Hose touching frame, body, or engine could 11. Verify:
cause steering system noise. Smooth power assist
All hose connections must be tight. Loose Noiseless operation
connections might not leak but could allow air into Proper fluid level
system. No system leaks
NOTE: Use only clean, new power steering fluid. Fluid Proper fluid condition (i.e. No bubbles, no must be: foam and no discolouration)
Conventional climate: 12. If all proper conditions apply, procedure is
GM #1052884 - 16 ounce. complete.
GM #1050017 - 32 ounce. 13. If any problem remains, check these special
Cold climate: conditions:
GM #12345866 - 16 ounce. Fluid: If there is foam or bubbles in the fluid.
GM #12345867 - 32 ounce. The fluid must be completely free of bubbles. In step 5, be alert to periodic bubbles that
1. Switch ignition off. could indicate a loose connection or leaky
2. Raise front wheels off ground. O-ring seal in either the return hose or
3. Turn steering wheel full left. pressure hose. Also check for discoloured
4. Fill fluid reservoir to “FULL COLD” level. Leave fluid. Follow the following steps top remedy cap off. the situation: Switch ignition off.
Wait two minutes.
Recheck hose connections.
Repeat steps 7-10 of procedure.
If condition still exists then check: return
hose clamps, return hose O-ring,
pressure hose O-rings and gear cylinder
line O-rings
Noise: If the pump whines or groans then with
engine running, recheck hoses for possible
contact with frame body or engine. If no
contact is found, follow either of the below
methods:
Method one: Normal cool down
Switch engine off.
5. With assistant checking fluid level and condition, Wait for system to cool.
turn steering wheel lock-to-lock at least 20 times. Install reservoir cap.
Engine remains off. Method two: Partial fluid replacement

NOTE: On systems with long return lines or fluid Switch engine off. coolers, turn steering wheel lock-to-lock at least Use a suction device to remove fluid 40 times. from reservoir. Refill with cool, clean fluid.
NOTE: Trapped air may cause fluid to overflow. Install reservoir cap.
Thoroughly clean any spilled fluid to allow for leak NOTE: After either method of cooling, start engine check. and allow engine to come up to operating
NOTE: Keep fluid level at “FULL COLD”. temperature. If noise persists, remove and replace
G27361 en 01/2003 2003.0 BA Falcon
211-00-4 Steering System — General Information 211-00-4
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 Post subject: Re: ED power steering shudder.
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:18 am 
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I also had airlock probs with my BA, so it was one of the first things I tried hoping it was a easy fix.
Have tried it everytime I replace another part but has made no difference so far!
I would have thought it would be fixed by now considering almost everything that could be causing it has been replaced. :roll:

Thanks for the suggestion though! :wink:

 

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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:21 am 
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Mate
Had the problem found to be loose fan belt give it a try

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 Post subject: Re: ED power steering shudder.
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:02 pm 
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It does help to grease the actual rack & pinion. It cuts down " Rack Chatter ".
I use the Ford fluid R1-424 for all Falcons from EA onwards.

 

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 Post subject: Re: ED power steering shudder.
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:04 pm 
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cjh wrote:
It does help to grease the actual rack & pinion. It cuts down " Rack Chatter ".
I use the Ford fluid R1-424 for all Falcons from EA onwards.


8-) Thats worth a try, will get some tomorrow-thanks cjh!
Adjusted belts today as they are new & have been on about a month, but still the same.

 

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 Post subject: Re: ED power steering shudder.
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:04 pm 
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after i changed everything else it still shuddered ,changed the rack last and all good now .
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