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Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 4:22 pm 
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I wish to purchase a gilmore drive for my EF Fairmont 4.0L. I dunno what im looking at and im in a position where i dunno what to do. I need to know how much it will cost? what if any power will it loose? and is it hard to install?? :roll:

 

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Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 4:28 pm 
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What for? A certain type of accessory or for the whole serpentine??

You'll simply need the appropriate diameter/width pulleys to replace standard pulleys and the correct length of belt.

Interesting concept as the tensioner is a one-piece unit - you'd have to drill out the current bolt holding it on and fabricate a bolt to hold the replacement pulley on there. I know for a fact this is possible as Mr Landau offers replacement tensioners for the V8 engine with such a replacable system..

I'd be suprised if anyone made a kit to suit the ford 4.0L.

 

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Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 4:33 pm 
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IM more or less after a bitta sound ... not for performance... try and imagine crusin with a supercharger sound ?? if u kno of any other options to give me some nice sounding tunes.. lemme kno hehe lol so far ive got the straight through exhaust, extractors, high flow, air filter, with no resinators... its pretty loud.. i just wanna different sound

 

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Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 6:07 pm 
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buy a supercharger :P
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Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 6:09 pm 
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4DZILR wrote:
try and imagine crusin with a supercharger sound ??


hehe i'm pretty sure martin knows what thats like! :P

the bastard... :twisted:

 

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Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 7:31 pm 
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try and imagine crusin with a supercharger sound ??


hehe i'm pretty sure martin knows what thats like! :P

the bastard... :twisted:


Lol, unfortunately the internal belt drive in the powerdyne is pretty quiet (good as far as law enforcement concerned tho...).

OK, the belts make a bit of noise (especially gilmer drive) but it's more the straight-cut gears used in some superchargers (particularly positive displacements) that make that sexy whining noise...

You'll get the same effect if you can find timing gears to replace your timing chain... or fit a gearbox with straight cuts...

Or drain the oil outta your gearbox or diff lol.... :wink:

But seriously - if you wanna fit a gilmer drive for a little bit of noise... that's a damn expensive way to go about it.... seeing as you'll be pioneering the idea (as far as i know) and fabricating everything...

 

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Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 8:00 pm 
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It would be interesting to see a serpentine gilmer drive set up!

The idea of replacing the 4L timing chain with timing gears isnt possible.. have you seen the length of the chain, Martin? :)

 

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Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 8:09 pm 
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have you seen the length of the chain, Martin? :)


Lol, never delved into the internals of an I6... cam over the head?? Does not compute....

 

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Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 8:13 pm 
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Any other ideas for a bitta sound? lol :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:

 

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Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 8:16 pm 
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have you seen the length of the chain, Martin? :)


Lol, never delved into the internals of an I6... cam over the head?? Does not compute....


I had the same fun when I bought the V8.. quite a learning curve 'where the f**k is the cam?!'

The crank is about 20cm below the cam.. long chain! :)

 

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Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 8:17 pm 
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Any other ideas for a bitta sound? lol :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:


V8 with straight cut timing gears.

a) nothing beats the sound of a V8!
b) timing gears will give you the sound u want
c) you will actually improve your performance.. not just 'sound cool'
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Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 8:23 pm 
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All of the above...

4dzilr - looking at your mods, im guessing it already makes a bit of noise??

Maybe do a cam... that usually changes the noise profile of an engine... if you get something fairly radical then it'll idle rough as guts, might be the sound you're after - but the best part is, it'll go hard.

Either that or fit a vortech v1 supercharger or a turbo... i dont think you have many other options sorry...

 

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thanks for the help.. much appreciated!

 

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put a s**t power steer pump in from a cab maybe :P

 

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put a s**t power steer pump in from a cab maybe :P


LOL!

Dave has a point here.. a noisy idler pulley or pwr steer pump will do the trick! :D

 

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