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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 9:31 am 
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Ok im a carby and push rod person myself but my wife owns a neat eb falcon with a few small mods , ive read and seen around the traps that you can fit the ef intake manifold to the eb and a later eec , couse the earlyer model manifold makes the car a b**ch to work on.
What i would like to know is how to do it , and what rewiring is involved

 

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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 1:36 am 
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Assuming it's a multipoint EB with smartlock.

EL ecu is a direct swap for an EB, an EF ecu has a different number of pins. Interms of the manifold yes it is fairly easy I know an EL manifold will plug straight into the EB wiring loom and only 1 or 2 extra wires are needed to be run from the ECU (I have heard that the plugs on an EF manifold wont plug in??). Some people have found you need to run a knock sensor or the engine will detonate, but others didn't have any issues (Or if you have a unichip you definately dont need a knock sensor). Two extra wires from the ECU are requiered, one wire is required to switch the butterflies in the manifold and one wire to the knock sensor.
Or you can control the butterflies with a rpm switch from jaycar and not need to replace the EB ecu at all.

You will need a list of things to get from a wreckers which I can go into if you want.
I can also give a more detailed explanation of the wiring if you want.

 

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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 9:29 am 
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A list of whats needed would be a great help , it is mpi as 4 if it has smart lock im not sure i know its an ebII but ive read that there should be a plug on the lwr right hand side near the steering colum which my car has not got.

 

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Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 1:31 am 
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If the cluster has a smartlock light that flashes when the car is off it has smartlock, otherwise you will have to read up on either installing smartlock or bypassing it (I would have a clue on this topic sorry).

List of parts needed for bbm conversion:
-manifold (inc throttle body)
-manifold wiring loom
-air box
-intake piping between box and throttle body
-thermostat top housing
-accelerator cable and pedal
-upper radiator hose
-heater pipe (metal) on the manifold side
-vacuum switch
-dipstick
-fuel hoses (Just from the manifold to the fuel lines)
-either EL rocker cover or drill and tap a hole in the EB one for the throttle cable
-Vacuum hoses or cut the EB ones

 

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Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 1:43 am 
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Heres a pic of the bbm fitted to my ED

 

 

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Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 8:49 am 
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Thanks alot 4 the help , but now im contemplating getting an ef or el rather than pumping my time and money into a car were i wont get it back plus ive still got my humber that my wife tells me if i dont finish soon will b sold from under me

 

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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 9:36 am 
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OK so if any1 can help me with bypassing the smartlock or installing 1 that would b great couse i realy want that bbm manifold on and ive seen ea's and the like with them fitted.

 

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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 9:36 am 
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OK so if any1 can help me with bypassing the smartlock or installing 1 that would b great couse i realy want that bbm manifold on and ive seen ea's and the like with them fitted.

 

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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 12:35 am 
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u would need to run the entire smartlock dash loom than i believe, which if u wanna go BBM as well u might was well convert the dash loom and engine loom to EL gear...
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