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 Post subject: ef to el
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:02 am 
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hey guys, how hard is it to convert an ef motor to suit an el?

we have an ef here doing nothing so my brother and i were going to pull it out and rebuild it for an el. i've suggested us changing it over to match an el then putting it into my car while we rebuild the motor out of my el. manly so that i don't have to get a mod plate to have a diffrent motor in my car, and plus my motor is a hybird so i'd like to keep it in the car,

when i rebuild it i plan on a cms stage 3 head and cam


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 Post subject: Re: ef to el
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:13 am 
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the biggest thing to swap is the dizzy into the ef motor as ef is coil pack and the el is dizzy

 

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 Post subject: Re: ef to el
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:14 am 
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yeah, i realsied that, isn't the harmonic balancer diffrent too? and i thought the dizzy went into the crank angle censore from memory

 

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 Post subject: Re: ef to el
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:16 am 
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should be a guide on here some where showing how to do it

 

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 Post subject: Re: ef to el
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:18 am 
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yeah, i might pick up a gregories or something similar

 

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 Post subject: Re: ef to el
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:49 am 
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Harmonic balancer is different... EL doesn't require the tone wheel because you don't need a crank angle sensor... Irrespective I'd leave the EF balancer and sensor on it and just not connect them...

You'll pull out the cam angle sensor and stick dizzy in its hole...

And you'll unbolt the coil pack and fit the coil there instead...

Would be easier to pull the engine loom off the EL and use that... Will plug straight in then... Too hard to mod the EF loom...

Would be harder to convert and EL engine to EF because then you would need to fit the right balance and the crank angle sensor and I've never looked but it may require a different timing case to fit the crank sensor...

Your conversion is fairly straight forward...

 

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 Post subject: Re: ef to el
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:52 am 
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oh i see, yeah i'm hoping it will only need to be in there, a month tops

 

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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 10:59 am 
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i put a spare ef engine i had from my first car into the el and all i did was:


1.You'll pull out the cam angle sensor and stick dizzy in its hole...

2.And you'll unbolt the coil pack and fit the coil there instead...

3.Would be easier to pull the engine loom off the EL and use that... Will plug straight in then... Too hard to mod the EF loom...

 

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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:59 pm 
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you also dont need a mod plate for the engine swap, its the same engine just with different bolt ons, and once the bolt ons are swapped its as good as an el engine

 

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 Post subject: Re: ef to el
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:13 pm 
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ahk, it's just that it's a diffrent engin number so the cops will probably think i've done a shifty

 

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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:18 pm 
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you let the rta(or who ever is in charge up your way) know of the engine swap and they just put it on the computer, if you crash and it has the wrong engine in the car and rta havent been notified insurance can be not payed out aparently, thats just hear say though, if its not going to be in there long before the original one gets dropped back in i wouldnt worry about it

 

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 Post subject: Re: ef to el
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:18 pm 
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yeah, i'm hoping a month maximum, depending how smart me and my brother are with it all

and how quick the block can be checked and honed if it'd needed

 

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 Post subject: Re: ef to el
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:21 pm 
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How are they going to tell the difference? other than engine numbers?
Maybe just inform them that the engine number has changed.

 

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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:21 pm 
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yeah, my motors a hybird one so i'm hoping to keep it in the car

 

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 Post subject: Re: ef to el
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:26 pm 
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i just put an el in my ef, (which is the oppersite to what you're doing) but instead of changing loom. i changed the whole manifold, loom and all. yea theres f**k all to change for el, just loom,coil and dizzy
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