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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 12:54 am 
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yeah just get 4.11's and you'l rape it.

 

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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 1:39 am 
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problem with gas is above 4000 it just cant get enough air in so putting 4.11 would be a waste of time.....

unless..... you can get enough air / gas forced in
by providing max airflow in to help :)

get a duel fuel ecu as well and switch maps for each fuel, better advance etc more torque down low where you need it.

 

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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 1:49 am 
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get LPG injection mmmmmmmmm yum MORE torque and power , no restriction and, cheaper :) and get 4.11's lol

 

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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 1:50 am 
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AU99 wrote:
problem with gas is above 4000 it just cant get enough air in so putting 4.11 would be a waste of time.....

unless..... you can get enough air / gas forced in
by providing max airflow in to help :)

get a duel fuel ecu as well and switch maps for each fuel, better advance etc more torque down low where you need it.


yeah i know what thats like i was driving my mates ED fairmont on gas and it felt starved above 4500, although i managed to get it past 6000 lol no limiter on gas hehe poor ed engine. :P

 

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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 2:19 am 
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It took me a fair bit of research to get mine going good above 4000. Was always brilliant off the line but lacked top end but with the airbox mods and another stepper motor if finally pulls above 3500 to redline.
Last dyno day I was really disapointed. Had perfect AFR too. So I did some research and came up with a winner that was really apparent, cos as soon as I did my airbox and snorkal it crapped itself at 90kays +.... Not enough LPG
So in went a new stepper motor and holy crap did it go. LPG consumption went up slightly but and more than happy with the results so far.
Will have to get her on the dyno again to see how far.

 

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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 2:28 am 
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AU99, you should document your setup for the rest of us considering gas.. I'd like to get the most from it if I could.
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 11:25 am 
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I have done the same mods pretty much most normal people do on their cars. Only difference I can really determine is I have done it on a budget. But I would need a seperate thread on how I got all the parts. Like my exhaust for example cost me $35.

The real story with my car is what it started life as and the jorney til now.

but back to topic with AU v EF if both were stock and on petrol EF would win. they are lighter but throw it thru some corners and the AU would out handle it everyday of the week.

Franki90 get a duel fuel ECU, extractors, A XR8 Snorkal and mod your airbox

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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 10:21 pm 
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so you rekn if i ram more air into the engine it will give it that edge?
but then will i have to go and get my gas retuned or something?

 

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Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 12:36 am 
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depends if it has a stepper motor setup that auto tunes or just a manual power valve

 

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Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 12:51 am 
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AU99 wrote:
but back to topic with AU v EF if both were stock and on petrol EF would win. they are lighter but throw it thru some corners and the AU would out handle it everyday of the week.


*sighs*, how many people do i have to correct on this issue... au's were lighter than the EF and the EL. Not every falcon in history has gained weight.

The AU is 36kg lighter than the EF (1505kg plays 1541kg.) though 36 kilo's plays sweet FA in a cars accel when it weighs one and a half a tons.

Condition and driver will play the crucial role.

The AU auto is programed a lot softer, I know coz mums got the EF and Ive got an AU and the gearbox's are worlds apart in terms of shift speed and firmness in econ mode. pretty simmilar in power. The AU has a way too soft shift in econ resulting in poorer feel on acceleration.

 

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Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 1:18 am 
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cool thought they were heavier

 

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Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 1:46 am 
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Where does the EA-ED fit in that scale??
I'm thinking they are lighter than the EF/EL again yes?
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Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 2:06 am 
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AU99 wrote:
It took me a fair bit of research to get mine going good above 4000. Was always brilliant off the line but lacked top end but with the airbox mods and another stepper motor if finally pulls above 3500 to redline.

My dual-fuel (Sprintgas) AU labours from around 3400 to 4000 on the tacho, about where the BBM switches over (3800), then picks up again to just past 5000 or so. I've modded my intake, 3" pipe into the airbox with a pod on the end, plus a snorkel. I'll be making another intake mod soon to force more air in :twisted:

 

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Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 11:14 am 
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frankieh wrote:
Where does the EA-ED fit in that scale??
I'm thinking they are lighter than the EF/EL again yes?


http://www.redbookasiapacific.com/au/ve ... &id2=62105

it doesnt have a weight on the EA, but you can see the difference between the EB and ED.

also note typo that says ED power: 145kw @ 4500.. should read 148kw.

 

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Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 4:24 pm 
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The EBII did have 148kw and the ED did have 145kw, its even in the ford books

 

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