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hey guyZ stupid question im asKing but iv'e got an 96 fairmont n my mate has an 98 el falcon... ive dragged him over 100 times n i lose by car lengths... if this because they go harder dan ef's or is my car hammered ??
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manual or auto?
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theblackone wrote: manual or auto?
both auto |
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I don't know if this really adds anything. But I think on the EL's auto, they were able to have the torque converter lock up much earlier. My sisters locks up at 55kmh.
But I have also noticed that my sisters EL, and my step dads old one used to go a little more effortlessly than my EF. |
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A fairmont's going to be slightly heavier than a low end falcon (GLi/Futura).
a 96 engine is probaly in worse condition than a 98 engine. The 98 EL may be a 'Hybrid' ie. it has an AU head/rocker gear so they rev better than regular EF/ELs. There's suspension changes in the ELs (esp the rear end). ELs did get a revised version of the auto box, so maybe it's better too. Lots of small changes - but officially EF and ELs had teh same performance figures.
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from the falcon specs website
Performance: (Falcon GLi sedan, 4 speed auto): Top speeds in gears 1st: 88km/h 2nd: 145km/h 3rd: 180km/h (speed limited) 4th: 180km/h (speed limited) 0-100km/h: 8.7 seconds Standing 400m: 16.2 seconds and the EL for comparison Performance: (Falcon Futura 4L sedan, 4 speed auto) Top speeds in gears 1st: 81km/h 2nd: 133km/h 3rd: 180km/h (speed limited) 4th: 180km/h (speed limited) 0-100km/h: 9.4 seconds Standing 400m: 17.0 seconds all info taken from http://www.geocities.com/falconfacts/fa ... alcon.html
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EF and ELs should be side buy side in a race providing ones not thrashed and both have same tranny, raced my cousins EL in my EF both stock and we stayed side by side. but those hybrid ELs go good.
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haven't seen those figures. Keep in mind a Futura will be heavier than a GLi.
Figures for engine power and torque are the same.
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data_mine wrote: Figures for engine power and torque are the same.
didnt the series 2 EF monts get the XR6 engine though?? so they would have the 164kw instead of the 157kw
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Only the Ghias
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EF2 Ghias did.
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how a***, my car is a 95 ef falcon gli with 275,000kms, and i whooped a 97 el falcon with 160,000... and ive killed a ef futura with headwork. my cars stock as a rock. and has a boot load load put thru it.
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data_mine wrote: Only the Ghias
cheers data mine and hornet 
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you will probably find that the EL futura has the 3.23 gear set in the diff rather than the 3.08 which the EF does. Notice that the EF gets higher speeds in each gear? 1st: 88 (EF) VS 82 (EL) so on and so forth. Might account for the higher QM times.
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EL's have 3.08 diffs too. (XR's and V8's excluded)
It'd all be ECU changes for the different shift points.
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