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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 12:50 pm 
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Hi all,

Well over the last weekend, I put on an EL BBM inlet and replaced my fuel pump with an EF one as well, also the main reason for pulling the car apart was to replace the timing case that had cracked/split around the crank seal.

The car now idles so smoothly and fuel consumption has come down, also it has alot more get up and go, not sure on power yet, feels more but a dyno run will confirm that answer, need a cruise control BBM cable yet as well.

Here are the pics of the finished product, and yes it is fully functioning and switches runners at 3,800rpm (or there abouts), still some tidy up left to do now that all is confirmed as working.

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Waste not want not, my old EA throttle bracket with the kickdown cable hole cut off, turned upside down, and a small trim of the throttle cable rubber is a perfect fit and alignment
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Jaycar to the rescue - $35.95 and some assembly and soldering saw kit KC5378 in the car and tuned to switch the runners at 3,800rpm
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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 1:20 pm 
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nice work - if you get a later rocker cover you should be able to bolt the intake down also yeah?

 

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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 1:42 pm 
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you need the au t series intake snorkel on there as that ea one, if it is joined to the lid there is bypassing the filter, which is not good. maybe you just haven't got around to replacing it and it is just resting against airbox. good to see you have chosen the ef dual intake runners. various tests around which show these to be the best flowing of all intake including el and au, although many ppl change them for el. 3.9 mpi made 139kw stock. ef 4.0 up to 157kw stock with mods being similar to what you have done and ecu. i'd say you would be up around 150 unless you have other mods. i had a ea s pak 5sp which had 104 - 107rwkw depending on which of the many dyno runs you look at.

great job all round on that car though. obviously you are not scared to jump in and have a go. full marks

 

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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 1:45 pm 
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I have a pod in there, so no drama on filtered ait going in.

I try anything, thats why I have BA headlight inserts, and a BA shifter also fully working.

I need a next to look forward too :)

 

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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 1:50 pm 
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Great work.

Any thought given towards an EEC-V ECU? Would allow you to take full advantage of the siwtching BBM with fuel and spark maps to suit.

Could probably butcher something together to allow EEC-V to control fuel, spark etc and still have EEC-IV controlling dash and would all co-exist with your custom trans control module...

 

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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 1:52 pm 
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you need the au t series intake snorkel on there as that ea one, if it is joined to the lid there is bypassing the filter, which is not good. maybe you just haven't got around to replacing it and it is just resting against airbox. good to see you have chosen the ef dual intake runners. various tests around which show these to be the best flowing of all intake including el and au, although many ppl change them for el. 3.9 mpi made 139kw stock. ef 4.0 up to 157kw stock with mods being similar to what you have done and ecu. i'd say you would be up around 150 unless you have other mods. i had a ea s pak 5sp which had 104 - 107rwkw depending on which of the many dyno runs you look at.

great job all round on that car though. obviously you are not scared to jump in and have a go. full marks



i think it would be a bit lower, because with every engine they bumped up the compresion a bit each time. might be wrong but

 

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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 2:06 pm 
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EEC-V may be next on the cards, but will need some interpretation of outputs for the cluster etc to function correctly.

 

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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 2:13 pm 
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i would still put some sort of plumbing on the lower entry to airbox 'cos at moment sucking hot air off radiator. no abs on your car so plenty of room under airbox to front air dam. looks like you could do wit some extractors as well. that should open her up nicely especially now you've improved the intake side of things. grab a cam out of the eb xr6.

 

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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 2:16 pm 
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Extractors are waiting to be picked up, crappy ones but will make a difference I am sure, I still have EA head and cam, so I think the EA head will be a weak link, will see what it makes as is, then next mod and test again.

Plumbing will happen, just havent had a chance yet :)

How much power can the EA head possibly flow as stock, anyone ?

 

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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 2:26 pm 
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EEC-V may be next on the cards, but will need some interpretation of outputs for the cluster etc to function correctly.

nah, fix that with a loom and cluster upgrade! lol

 

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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 2:32 pm 
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EEC-V may be next on the cards, but will need some interpretation of outputs for the cluster etc to function correctly.

nah, fix that with a loom and cluster upgrade! lol


But the DIGI dash, gotta keep the DIGI dash its an EA Ghia 8-)

 

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Dellboy999 wrote:
Happy wrote:
Dellboy999 wrote:
EEC-V may be next on the cards, but will need some interpretation of outputs for the cluster etc to function correctly.

nah, fix that with a loom and cluster upgrade! lol


But the DIGI dash, gotta keep the DIGI dash its an EA Ghia 8-)


what about intergrating it with a high-series NF/NL cluster with the gear-display function? :? lol not that i know anything about electrics!

EB XR6 cam = EF/EL cam i believe - so i'd be cheaper to grab a stock EF/EL cam i'd say! :)

 

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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 2:39 pm 
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Dellboy999 wrote:
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Dellboy999 wrote:
EEC-V may be next on the cards, but will need some interpretation of outputs for the cluster etc to function correctly.

nah, fix that with a loom and cluster upgrade! lol


But the DIGI dash, gotta keep the DIGI dash its an EA Ghia 8-)

hehe I'm sure you grow to love the ef/el cluster - which ever one you put in...

 

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what about intergrating it with a high-series NF/NL cluster with the gear-display function? :? lol not that i know anything about electrics!

EB XR6 cam = EF/EL cam i believe - so i'd be cheaper to grab a stock EF/EL cam i'd say! :)


Yeah i have some thinking to do on cluster/eec-v possible options.

uglybob i do recall you are correct, my plan would be just bolt on an full ef head/cam and do it that way, but head gasket was done before i got the car, so no point at the moment, but we will see :roll:

 

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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 6:03 pm 
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Good work Dellboy!
How does the frequency switch kit actually activate switching of the BBM though ? Have you got some sort of solenoid hooked to the relay output ?

I'm thinking of doing a similar thing on my EF when I fit the megasquirt. My BBM is a bit sticky when it switches and causes massive flatspots when it intermittantly does it. It may vaccum related due to the big cam I'm running, so I figure something like this will eliminate that from the equation :)

 

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