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 Post subject: EL central locking cycles between lock and unlock
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 6:41 pm 
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Hey guys,
So yesterday I went to unlock my car and it began a loop of unlock/lock, and now it's doing it all the time, though it does eventually stop after awhile, but restarts every time i try to unlock or lock the car by both key and remote.
I noticed that the rear drivers door was always unlocked, regardless of if the other doors locked or not, so i pulled the trim off and listened to the locking actuator and sure enough, its perfectly silent while the others are clearly making noise.
So my question is...is my locking actuator most likely dead? if so, how do i pull it out? I've had a look but I can't see how to get at any screws holding it onto the door.
Also, how much will one of these set me back? :(

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 Post subject: Re: EL central locking cycles between lock and unlock
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 7:11 pm 
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yep my au is doing exactly that!
push the remote button and all the door locks start cycling up and down about 4 times!
i have noticed my rear passenger door will not lock at all so i imagine that that is my culprit.
i have had my door trim off but unless you know what ya looking at or unless something is visibly broken how do ya know what part needs fixing.
im just gunna take it to my mechanic and get him to fix the prick!!
worse thing is that my engine immobiliser is not working at all!
smartlock my a**!!!!! :roll:
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 Post subject: Re: EL central locking cycles between lock and unlock
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 7:19 pm 
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grab one from a wreckers mate, cheap as chips.

 

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 Post subject: Re: EL central locking cycles between lock and unlock
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 7:29 pm 
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does anyone know if there is an aftermarket actuator that is stronger than the
original ford crap!
i want to fix this prick and never have to touch it EVER AGAIN !
and are they an easy fix!!!!!!
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 Post subject: Re: EL central locking cycles between lock and unlock
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 7:55 pm 
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Have a read of this documents.php?d=74 It's a lot of work but Ford are going to stop making actuators one day so beat the crowds and do it first or second or third.Cheers Kevman.
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 Post subject: Re: EL central locking cycles between lock and unlock
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 8:27 pm 
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Alrighty, so grab a new motor, I can manage that...
I'm guessing im gonna have to drill out the rivets holding the current motor in, so whats gonna be the best way to secure this new one?
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 Post subject: Re: EL central locking cycles between lock and unlock
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 8:30 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: EL central locking cycles between lock and unlock
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 8:50 pm 
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Might just be me but from a bit of a feel around they dont seem like your standard rivets....
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 Post subject: Re: EL central locking cycles between lock and unlock
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 9:34 pm 
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The problem was solved by using actuators Ford released mid EL, and were changed under warranty if the original owner could prove to the dealer the locks were cycling.

The actuators have a 96DA part number. All previous ones have a 94DA or 87DA part number.

Also the 96DA actuators are not compatible with previous models, you have to change the lot so they all match up and work correctly. So be wary of what you have and what you grab from the wreckers.

If you want a complete set of 96DA ones, I have a set here that are for sale.
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 Post subject: Re: EL central locking cycles between lock and unlock
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 11:10 pm 
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When I did mine I just used 2 6mm x 10 mm bolts and lock nuts to hold the actuators in place .A bit of a pain but gets easier or Phillips screws.The flatter the better so that the door trim doesn't bulge.Kevman.
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 Post subject: Re: EL central locking cycles between lock and unlock
Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 8:46 pm 
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arm79 wrote:
If you want a complete set of 96DA ones, I have a set here that are for sale.

How much would you be looking for them out of curiosity?
Also, when you say they arent compatible with the old ones, do you just mean that I'd have to replace all 4 of the actuators?
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:15 pm 
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jman87 wrote:
arm79 wrote:
If you want a complete set of 96DA ones, I have a set here that are for sale.

How much would you be looking for them out of curiosity?
Also, when you say they aren't compatible with the old ones, do you just mean that I'd have to replace all 4 of the actuators?

arm79 wrote:
Also the 96DA actuators are not compatible with previous models, you have to change the lot so they all match up and work correctly. So be wary of what you have and what you grab from the wreckers.



Lets put it this way don't start me on fords central locking. :twisted:

 

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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:53 pm 
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Yep - replace all 4. The Speed changes in the models - and they need to be mostly in Sync. The two front door ones have switches in them and when they go wrong (or the lock button is blocked) the locks will cycle.

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 Post subject: Re: EL central locking cycles between lock and unlock
Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 11:20 pm 
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jman87 wrote:
arm79 wrote:
If you want a complete set of 96DA ones, I have a set here that are for sale.

How much would you be looking for them out of curiosity?
Also, when you say they arent compatible with the old ones, do you just mean that I'd have to replace all 4 of the actuators?


Yep, replace all 4. Front and back doors. PM sent with details.

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Lets put it this way don't start me on fords central locking. :twisted:


hahahaha.. Thats funny. In nearly 10 years of owning EL's, I never never ever had the locks cycle on me. But then I always had late model EL's with the new lock types..

Nigel wrote:
Yep - replace all 4. The Speed changes in the models - and they need to be mostly in Sync.


Plus if you look inside the actuators, the contacts that the mechanism runs on are a bit longer bigger.

If you look closely you can see why the door locks cycle. The size of the contacts and more so the positioning of the lock in the front door is critical.
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 Post subject: Re: EL central locking cycles between lock and unlock
Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 1:16 pm 
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jman87 wrote:
arm79 wrote:
If you want a complete set of 96DA ones, I have a set here that are for sale.

How much would you be looking for them out of curiosity?
Also, when you say they arent compatible with the old ones, do you just mean that I'd have to replace all 4 of the actuators?

I can help you with supply and fitting.

 

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