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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 4:58 pm 
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My mates got an n14 pulser or 91 model. that things keeps up with me with me all the way to 60 then the mont gets to peak torque then its all over for him :D but there quick little S**ts

 

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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 6:17 pm 
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unclewoja wrote:
I believe the Commonwhores have a 3.45 diff in their autos and Falcons have a 3.08. The reason why Ford use a taller diff ratio is because it's got a decent amount of torque down low.


I was under the impression they too had a 3.08 diff (not sure about S Pacs etc) but it was the gearing in the auto that is vastly different. Hence the TH700??? in a Falcon would haul off the line, I'm not sure how it would affect anything else ie. revs on the FWY, top end etc.

BTW, my auto ED with cat back and 1004-114 cam could keep up to my mate's 5 speed VS Clubby with exhaust (not sure if there is any other performance mods) until 130 and then he'd pull away. We were both surprised and stoked!! Just can't wait until I get a T5, 3.7s, headwork, headers and all the rest LOL!!
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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 7:05 pm 
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Yeah both commodore and falcon have 3.08 ratios at the rear end, and im pretty sure that all models had that ratio. its only the 1st gear and to a lesser extent the 2nd gear that's the difference. 3rd and 4th are similar between the 2. the VS's were quicker than the VT's because the VT's were at least 100kg's heavier, yet retained the same engine/driveline.

I've driven my sisters VS a couple of times, they do go well off the line, but as already said, they start running out of oomph after 80-100 km/h

 

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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 9:29 am 
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I raced my mates VT exec a couple of times before i had the snorkel in, we were pretty much dead even
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:29 pm 
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i drove my mates vt2 olympic edition p.o.s and its close but the el's are faster, also his is 1650kg my fairmonts only 1500kg

 

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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:47 pm 
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i raced my mate in his vt berlina series 2, i have ef fairmont. i kicked his a*** wildly. as we were draggingwe both started off with ours in second gear (autos, der) we took off his car shifted into second very quickly, iu was still in first as he was in second, i was a car length in front of him and a little bit more, then as sonn as my car popped it self into second gear, say goodbye to the berlina, got him by approx 4-5 car lengths in the end, which my mate toild me as i was unable to see how far infront i was.

 

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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 10:36 pm 
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i tell you what how many guys have run those old vn commodores .some of them can boogie
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 8:30 am 
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off the line yes, but even with their huge weight advantage (to my EL) I still beat them handily to 100.

 

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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 5:29 pm 
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3.45 diff gears are a gift from god, are they not data_mine?
Mind you, be careful on slippery roundabouts when you're still enjoying the improved takeoff... :shock:

 

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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 6:00 pm 
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Steady ED wrote:
3.45 diff gears are a gift from god, are they not data_mine?
Mind you, be careful on slippery roundabouts when you're still enjoying the improved takeoff... :shock:

PML, indeed!
Same idea when taking off up a hill in the wet or dirt road; going up it sideways is a bit of a shock at 1st.

 

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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 6:54 pm 
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I (used to) drive my mums EL GLi wagon, one of my mates has an EL fairmont and the other had an EL GLi sedan. Went sedan, wagon, fairmont in most races. Then the fairmont copped a sports exhaust n it's basically luck wheter the fairmont or the wagon wins now. The GLi sedan moved over for a VN commodore with extractors, sports exhaust, and cop computer. Cost $800 and would whoop the a*** out of most any car we came across. It was a piece of s**t, but it was quick due to overly short 1st gear. If we all raced from about 60, the wagon would actually win. It seems that moving backwards from VT to VN the cars actually get alot faster, mostly due to weight. NRMA reviews seem to agree.
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 10:36 am 
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Looks like your mate has started his own thread on a commie forum.. ba ha ha...
http://forums.justcommodores.com.au/sho ... hp?t=19479

 

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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 11:23 am 
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When I had an XF GHIA (EFI 6) a couple of years ago it ate every V6 Commodore it came up against.
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 12:21 pm 
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KTASTRPHE wrote:
Looks like your mate has started his own thread on a commie forum.. ba ha ha...
http://forums.justcommodores.com.au/sho ... hp?t=19479


Hes been shut down pritty fast though
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Daniel wrote:
Steady ED wrote:
3.45 diff gears are a gift from god, are they not data_mine?
Mind you, be careful on slippery roundabouts when you're still enjoying the improved takeoff... :shock:

PML, indeed!
Same idea when taking off up a hill in the wet or dirt road; going up it sideways is a bit of a shock at 1st.


...and 2nd...

But yeah, well worth the money and effort installing it.

 

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