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Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 10:43 pm 
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well sorta

finaly put the el motor into my eb today . she's all in and bolted up went to start her and she started yay but noooooo so followed
it runs but wont keep idel and just goes


pop poppopopppoopppppooppooooppopooppp

give it a lil gas and she just dose it more.

thinking most likely is the timing is out


ne one else got ne odeas what it could be ?

i was just useing the eb manual computer to see if she started. should i put the el comp in and see if that runs better

( havent hooked up the bbm switch yet tho )

ne help would be great

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ps ill go get some pics now

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Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 10:52 pm 
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hears some pics

 

 

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Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 10:55 pm 
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couple of things i notced when doing the conversion is .

1 have to use ur eb mounts
2. the bottom hose is a bugger ( the eb 1 is bigger ) el wont fit onto radiator .
3 prepare to get a sore back
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Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 10:58 am 
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have you checked you have all the leads in the right order on the dizzy cap?
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Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 11:14 am 
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As per the norm, check all your vaccy hoses/electrical plugs and make sure they are all fitted and where they're supposed to be.
If the EB ECU you mentioned is an EBI (just going off the radiator hose thing), I'd plug in the EL ECU - should still run even without the BBM solenoid wired up. Even an EL auto ECU will still run, just with added thermo roar and 1200RPM idle.
I would think if firing order was wrong, the car wouldn't run, just would pop/f@rt etc. Sounds more like the MAP sensor vaccy hoses is not hooked up, or maybe one of the injector electrical plugs is loose.

Wouldn't hurt to confirm base timing is correct.

 

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Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 11:24 am 
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should look like this for a EL motor.

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Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 11:57 am 
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cheer's ill check it all out
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Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 11:58 am 
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its a el hybrid motor . would that make a diff?
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Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 12:00 pm 
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just to make sure the map sensor vaccy hose is right what vaccy port on the motor do i hook it too ?
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Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 12:16 pm 
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ok well checke leand out all in the correct position.

checked injector conections all seem fine and connected
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Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 12:34 pm 
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k well just played around with it some more. started her up still popping and f@rt around.
stoped it. checket the zorst pipes to make sure all cyldenders r firing . 1 2 3 4 and 6 where warm but 5 was stone cold?

leads r all hooked up and tight . new plugs r in too.
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Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 12:52 pm 
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if you have spark at the plug on that cylander then the only thing you are missing is fuel, that is assuming there is nothing severe wrong with it.
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Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 1:25 pm 
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i put a new rotor arm in the dizzy to when i put new gaskets threw the motor. . .

umm bit hard to check spark by myself.

what i would like to find out is the correct places for the vaccy lines to go . ie map sensor and the bbm switch (vsv) not too sure to be honest had a guess but dont know if im right or not.
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Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 2:44 pm 
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well i took No 5 lead off and it has got spark there.

so how do u check if injectors r working >? put the el ecu in too

still pops and f@rt and s**t.
sounds like a rumbleing 8 at low revs
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Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 3:58 pm 
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just pulled the plugs out and i cand see there is fuel getting there and burning.

so im leaning towards the timing.

whats the best way to c if timing is right ?

i did replace the guides and timing cover gaskets. when i put it back together i aliged all the timing marks up .

this is really starting to p me off.

ne1 thats in perth and free and would like to help me get this going id muchly appreciate it.


if ur up for a chalage pm me

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