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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:30 am 
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hmmm.. I just printed 5 different copies of that first ford pages all with different settings before I released that the small writing is invisible in the original.
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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:58 am 
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I don't suppose you could load the EA-ED ford manual up on rapidshare or something could you F100? :p


im P100... not F100..

i never used rapidshare.. what size files do they take ??

this is the sizes...
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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 1:11 am 
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Sorry P100, I saw the truck in your sig and made assumptions.. :-(

I don't know about rapidshare, but I've used this:
https://www.foldershare.com/welcome.aspx

foldershare is a free MS tool that works well with files at least 350 MB.
(just checked rapidshare.. they have a limit of 200mb.)

works great, Mike sent me a manual using it.. but unfortunately it was the Elleries one that I already have in hard copy.. so didn't help... but was a good test for foldershare as it was 350MB in size.. all you have to do is exchange foldershare email address and share them in the foldershare settings and it all happens encryped in the background.
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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 1:59 am 
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Are you adapting a BBM to work with an EA-ED engine harness?

If you are, just use the EB log manifold loom, and adapt it to work on the BBM manifold.

Much easier. My build thread has some details on how to do this.

If not, good luck to you.

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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 2:09 am 
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Hi BenJ

Yes, I agree that getting the EL motor working with EA wiring would be easier by just using a modified EA harness.. But I don't think it's the best choice in my case... The engine is total and complete EL... and so is the ECU (and I've added all the wiring to the ECU block plug, not just the ones need to get it working.) I eventually plan to get as much of the functionality out of the EL ghia setup as I can. That includes things like the ECU controlled thermos... which will be simplier with the factory loom in place I think.

I've I had the EL dash like you do.. I'd have just grabbed the whole EL loom and installed it in my EA.. but I like my digital dash and they didn't do that in the EL. (I did think about putting the EA cluster into an EL dash and see if I could get it working, but that sounds like even harder work than I'm doing now.)


I can get EL motors cheap as chips. so I'm not terribly worried about blowing an engine..
I do want the changeover to be as simple as possible.. and that means not having to swap looms each time.. the way I am doing it.. the EL loom block plug has EA-ED plugs on the other end and can directly interface the two... nice and simple and it accounts for the Extra stuff that the ea loom doesn't do.. (like BBM and thermos.)
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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 7:06 am 
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P100 Ute wrote:
knowsfords wrote:
I don't suppose you could load the EA-ED ford manual up on rapidshare or something could you F100? :p


im P100... not F100..

i never used rapidshare.. what size files do they take ??

this is the sizes...
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:oops: Sorry about that mate

 

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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:21 pm 
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Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 1:37 am 
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This is where I am now...

Feel free to jump in people.. when fiinished, this (and the ed one I'm doing next) will be helpful resources here.

First colour is the main wire colour, second is the stripe.
Code:
EL Falcon engine loom colours   
-------------------------------------   
Black/Yellow                   Air temp
Yellow   
Black/Green   
Yellow/Green                  TFI
Lt blue   
Pink   
White   
Black   
Grey/White                    ISC
Pink/Grey   
Pink/Grey   
White/Yellow   
White/Green                  Cam sensor
Green   
White/Red   
Grey/White   
Red/Green                     ignition to O2 and ign module
Pink/Blue   
Red (small)   
Red (large)   
Black/blue   
White                        INJ 2 ??
black   
Orange/black                Map & Throttle sensor common
Green/Yellow                Water Temp
Green/Black                Throttle pos
Red (small)   
White/Blue   
Pink/Blue                        TFI
Tan/White   
Brown                        TFI
White   
Green/Grey   
Black/White                Water Temp/Air/knock/map
Tan/Yellow   
   
   
EL Loom 2   
Pink (large)   
Pink (large)   
Pink/Black   
Pink/Green   
Red/Blue   
Red/Black   
Green   
Black/White   
Pink (small)   
Pink/Orange   
Black/Green   
White   
Yellow/Green   
Orange/White   
Blue   
Red (small)   
Red (large)   
Yellow (small)   
Green/Violet                BBM


Some of those have been verified by multimeter on the engine, most are just from looking at the schematics and matching up colors.

Max Ellery's manuals are really really bad for accuracy.. particularly with regards to the schematics.

Hayes are heaps better, but not perfect.

The manual I bought online arrived for the EL, and its a friggin Elleries asw well, so I'm no better of than I was before. (except that my Walbor GS342 has arrived today as well... sweet)

This is harder than I was expecting.. but only have to do it once right?

Can anyone fill in any of those?

rgds

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Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 3:08 am 
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Gregory's manual's have good wiring schematics!!!

 

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Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 4:09 am 
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I've looked for A gregory's for an EL.... not found one yet.

Tomorrow I'm going to pull out the old EA wiring loom and figure out how the injectors and stuff is wired in.. that will hopefully teach me enough to fill in a heap more of the wiring chart as the injectors can't have changed or the EL computer wouldn't be running my ED motor atm. :-)

would have been nice if someone else had adapted the harness before me.. but what they hell.. its not brain surgery, just time consuming and fiddly when you don't have the appropraite documentation.
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Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 4:22 am 
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hope this helps Frankieh,

regards,

Luke............

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Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 4:38 am 
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oh.... thats nice that is.. thanks heaps.. that should move things along nicely.

here is hoping the colours are better then the ones I have that list colors that don't exist in the loom.

thanks again
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Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 4:40 am 
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oh.... thats nice that is.. thanks heaps.. that should move things along nicely.

here is hoping the colours are better then the ones I have that list colors that don't exist in the loom.

thanks again



The colour codes on this schematic are correct, I have chased down a few sensor gremlins in my EL falcon in the past few years and everything in that schematic is correct.

Cheers.............

 

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Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 4:58 am 
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Thats brilliant..

I'ts already helped me work out a few of the ones I wasn't sure about.

sweet...

thanks again
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Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 5:45 am 
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Just spent an hour trying to clean the image up so I can see all the colours accurately.. I have 3 different versions now.. all more readable for different areas.

I could almost go out in the shed and work now.. despite it being nearly 3am... :-)
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