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Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 4:02 pm 
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Hi all,

I have just started making a block plug adaptor between the EL block and the EA-ED harness... Turns out however that there are only 13 wires on the two EA/ED plugs, but there are over 29 of them on the EL block plug..

I'm gonna need to know what the EL ones are in order to wire this up.

My main reason for doing this rather than a custom loom, is that I want to be able to swap in EL motors easily if I ever blow this one with the M90, so being able to grab one complete and just plug it in would be a definate benefit.

I think my EA/ED manual covers the EA=ED side of things, so I just need a schematic of the EL motor to enable me to wire them together.

Can anyone help?

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Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 6:13 pm 
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Anyone?

I just bought an EL manual online, but have to wait for delivery now.. would like to have the loom ready to go by then...

I suppose I could sit down with my multimeter on the old loom and see what is going where.. but a schematic would be faster.
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Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 7:34 pm 
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dunno if this is any help... its the EL wiring diagram thingy ma bob..

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Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 8:36 pm 
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Thankyou P100.. I think that will help..

What I've started doing today was setting the multimeter to continuity beep.. and pulling off plugs and sensors on the EL motor and then finding where the wiring ends in the block plugs.. then label them with a pen and masking tape.

When I have all the ones I can think of, I should be able to do the same with the ED and join the two up.

End result will hopefully be a plug and play adapter for EL motors to EA loom.

It's really slow going though.. only done about 6 wires on the EL so far.
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Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 8:48 pm 
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yeh. i'd be a slow process :S

i got a EL intake manifold here with the plugs on it.

and complete loom for the ECU --> Manifold.
thats if ur chasing a spare manifold/loom to play with.

 

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What manual was that from ?

I'vr got a max elleries for the EA-ED side of things, but I don't trust the color codes in that book cos I've seen it make mistakes before.

Surpring that fordmods doesn't have a color coded loom tute for these cars up... we will have when I finish this..
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frankieh wrote:
What manual was that from ?

I'vr got a max elleries for the EA-ED side of things, but I don't trust the color codes in that book cos I've seen it make mistakes before.

Surpring that fordmods doesn't have a color coded loom tute for these cars up... we will have when I finish this..


Yeah max elleries is terrihorrible.

 

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Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 9:49 pm 
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i got it off the MAx Ellery's one

Ford_EF-EL_Falcon_Manual-Max_Ellerys.pdf

i got the Haynes here also..

Ford_EF-EL_Falcon_Manual-Haynes.pdf

i'll see what the wiring diagrams look like in there..

 

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ohh.... haynes... thats what we want.. :-)

Where did you get all these pdf's from mr P100?


I have the real elleries for the ED.. and a pdf verison of the same.. but don't have the haynes one.
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orrite
sorry 4 delay.. was outside doin crap round the house.

these are the Haynes diagrams... they look different.. but saying that.. wiring diagrams arent my strong point.

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ohh.... haynes... thats what we want.. :-)
Where did you get all these pdf's from mr P100?

I have the real elleries for the ED.. and a pdf verison of the same.. but don't have the haynes one.


if i told ya... i'd have to kill ya..

i got the Max Ellerys and the Factory Part 1 + Part 2 of the EA-ED
no Haynes for the EA-ED..

the ones i posted are both EL diagrams..

 

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Ohhh... so you have the electrical diag from the EA-ED in factory ford manual?

Could I possibly bother you for a shot of that?

I've had a good read of the elleries one, and I think it's full of cr@p..
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Ohhh... so you have the electrical diag from the EA-ED in factory ford manual?

Could I possibly bother you for a shot of that?

I've had a good read of the elleries one, and I think it's full of cr@p..


demanding aint ya... lucky im out on good behaviour..

the quality aint that good on the original ford one.. (has pictures which help)
but i have added the list of pinouts and what they do to help with that.

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My man... you are a legend..

I think that I have enough info here to do this...
it will still take ages because I'm gonna test it with the multimeter at each stage.. but being able to look up the colors first means I don't have to test 37 wires to find the one I want.

Only bit I'm confused about at this point is how the wires for the injectors are done at the plug. (batch injection.. but now many batches? ) but I'll work it all out.


thanks again.. you and huggybear have made this job much easier for me. (huggiebear sent me an old TFI module to cutup and use for my remote TFI install.)

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I don't suppose you could load the EA-ED ford manual up on rapidshare or something could you F100? :p

 

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