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 Post subject: el serpentine conversion
Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 12:29 pm 
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hey just after abit of help im in the middle of putting an ed xr6 engine into my ed and was wondering what is need for the el serpentine conversion? Am i able to do this without taking the engine back out? any help would be greatly appreciated cheers.
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 Post subject: Re: el serpentine conversion
Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 2:25 pm 
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Gidday.

This is a good upgrade, however, can be expensive collecting all the bits you need. And depending on what inlet manifold you use, some parts are different.

You need the following EF/EL parts, regardless of inlet manifold choice:

Water Pump - Get a new one as it is hard to get a S/hand one to not leak
Alternator
Power Steering Pump
Harmonic Balancer
A/C Compressor

If you keep the ED Log inlet manifold you will have to source a non XR6 XH Belt Tensioner and Serp Belt, as these came from the factory with the Serpentine setup, but had a Log manifold. You can't use the normal belt tensioner as the belt will foul on the throttle body.

If you decide to change to the later BBM (Broad Band Manifold) from the EF/EL, the normal belt tensioner and belt will be fine.

Here is a link from my build thread from when I had an ED engine and did the serpentine conversion.

BenJ's EB T5 Wagon

I hope that helps.

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 Post subject: Re: el serpentine conversion
Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 2:37 pm 
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You don't need the whole pump, just the pulley for the pump.
The radiator is different too....EA to ED lower water neck is big......EF/EL lower water neck is small.
You need an EF/EL/AU water pump, coz they spin backwards.....back of the serpentine belt runs the w/pump......and the fans to cool it.
Use an EL balancer.....lighter than EF balancer ( has teeth on it...EL doesn't ).
Must use XH belt tensioner and XH belt.

 

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 Post subject: Re: el serpentine conversion
Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 2:42 pm 
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I agree re needing ONLY the pulley, however if you don't have the right tools to get the pulley off and press it on, it is just easier to get a complete pump.

Yep, need the radiator too, I forgot that this time :oops:

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 Post subject: Re: el serpentine conversion
Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 6:51 pm 
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Thanks for the fast reply on that guys. i want to just start collecting all the bits i need as i come across them so thats a big help as for the bbm conversion iv read a bit around the forums on this would i be a better idea to do the bbm conversion as well? what will i gain from this exactly? what would i need in the way of that and what parts then change to do the serpentine conversion? Thanks again in advance,
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 Post subject: Re: el serpentine conversion
Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:51 pm 
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OK for a BBM conversion, you need the following EF/EL parts.

EL ECU

BBM Manifold with throttle body and ICS and TPS

Metal heater pipe that goes from back water pump, under exhaust manifold, around back of engine and ends under rear of BBM

Metal heater pipe from lower thermostat housing

Heater hoses

EB Manifold wiring loom modded to fit the BBM

BBM Vacuum switch solenoid

Upper radiator hose

Upper thermostat housing

Air intake snorkle, box, and piping to throttle body

Throttle pedal



Hmmm, that seems to be about it.

The cheapest way to do all this is to try and buy a complete donor engine/car that still has all the accessories etc on it. The engine itself can be stuffed, just as long as all the other bits are still on it.

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 Post subject: Re: el serpentine conversion
Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 8:20 pm 
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be easier and maybe cheaper to get a parts car
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 Post subject: Re: el serpentine conversion
Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 10:02 pm 
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Im thinking the doner car to much easier then trying to source all the parts and cheeper not to mention im sure there would be a few other goodies that i could use.. Thanks for the info guys let me know if you here of any going cheep in victoria. cheers
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