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 Post subject: EL tickford upgrade
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:22 pm 
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Hey people it's my first post here so just want to say hello, my question is what I would need to change on my fairmont stright 6 to run a Wade 977b cam, a set of extractors and a 2.5" exhaust system? I've read quite a bit about the whole J3 chip and all that but I don't quite understand what actually needs to be done to run this sort of gear.
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 Post subject: Re: EL tickford upgrade
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:45 pm 
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welcome to fordmods. if your car is a manual you dont need a j3 yet it is better if you do. i ran mine without one for about 3 months and ran fine except for cold starts. not too sure about an auto,

 

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 Post subject: Re: EL tickford upgrade
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 9:23 pm 
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Yeah she's the auto, what did you feel was different mainly when you changed from stock and how did you get a hold of the cam?

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 Post subject: Re: EL tickford upgrade
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 9:33 pm 
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i did mine bit by bit so nothing was really noticeable. however its got 136kw at the treads at the moment and will be going for a tune on friday so hopefully more. i just took an old cam into wade and they reground it for me. i think the 977b is now a 114 lsa to be more friendly to autos but i would suggest a j3 so you can get the most out of it. im actually thinking of upgrading the 977b to something bigger so mine will be for sale but wont be for quite a while yet. the 977b is abit sluggish down low (under 2500) but pulls all the way to redline. i have a vernier gear on it and advanced it 2 degrees just to bring it on a little bit earlier as i dont NORMALLY drive above 3000.

 

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 Post subject: Re: EL tickford upgrade
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 10:31 pm 
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Thanks ranga83 for the replies, given me a bit better insight as to where I might put my money soon :)
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 Post subject: Re: EL tickford upgrade
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 10:34 pm 
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i'd go exhaust and intake first, get your engine breathing better, then cam. if you get a regrind your going to need an extra set of shims for the hla's. also not too sure if you will need a hi stall for a 977b. others may be able to help you with that.

 

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 Post subject: Re: EL tickford upgrade
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 10:19 am 
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Welcome mate,
There are heaps of things you can to to get power you should look into the following;
- A high flowing head ( porting and polishing etc)
- A cam to suit the flow of the head
- Vernier Gear
- A good free-flowing exhaust
- A high flowing intake
- Can upgrade ignition
- Can upgrade fuel system
- J3 or upgraded ECU with dyno tune
- ported inlet manifold

These are just a few ideas, but they will get the most out of the I6.

 

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 Post subject: Re: EL tickford upgrade
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 7:28 pm 
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Good condition stock fuel and ignition "systems" are more then capable of handling na power I wouldn't bother changing them if yours work fine,
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 Post subject: Re: EL tickford upgrade
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:06 pm 
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wombi90 wrote:
Good condition stock fuel and ignition "systems" are more then capable of handling na power I wouldn't bother changing them if yours work fine,

I was advised by Paul from CVE, that if your looking towards 200rwk it is something you have to consider....

 

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 Post subject: Re: EL tickford upgrade
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:26 pm 
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Six wrote:
wombi90 wrote:
Good condition stock fuel and ignition "systems" are more then capable of handling na power I wouldn't bother changing them if yours work fine,

I was advised by Paul from CVE, that if your looking towards 200rwk it is something you have to consider....

200rwk from a el is going to take a fair bit, even with a wade 1521a and a worked head from Cve power results are around 170-180rwkws, even a jmm dev 5 kit is around the same,

I can only think of 2 sohc N/A e series pushing near 200rwks and they are gezza200? And brockb8
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 Post subject: Re: EL tickford upgrade
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:29 pm 
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i know gezza has cracked 200 but thats with alot bigger cam than a 977b. and i think he said its a pig to drive as a daily.

 

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 Post subject: Re: EL tickford upgrade
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:36 pm 
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Yeah so for a 977b stock fuel and ignition systems will be fine
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 Post subject: Re: EL tickford upgrade
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:52 pm 
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it is for mine. except im now running a tickford fuel reg but it ran fine before aswell

 

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 Post subject: Re: EL tickford upgrade
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:59 pm 
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wombi90 wrote:
Six wrote:
wombi90 wrote:
Good condition stock fuel and ignition "systems" are more then capable of handling na power I wouldn't bother changing them if yours work fine,

I was advised by Paul from CVE, that if your looking towards 200rwk it is something you have to consider....

200rwk from a el is going to take a fair bit, even with a wade 1521a and a worked head from Cve power results are around 170-180rwkws, even a jmm dev 5 kit is around the same,

I can only think of 2 sohc N/A e series pushing near 200rwks and they are gezza200? And brockb8

Yes it is a difficult achievement, however it is very doable with the right amount of $

 

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