Fordmods Logo

electric water pump (9 rwkw) 

 

Page 2 of 4 [ 50 posts ] Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4  Next

 
 Post subject: Re: electric water pump (9 rwkw)
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:54 am 
Smokin em up
Offline
User avatar

Age: 39

Posts: 284

Joined: 19th Dec 2008

Gallery: 1 images

Ride: BA XR6 N/A

Location: Kellyville
NSW, Australia

hahaha, nice find man nice find...... 8-)

 

_________________

HOTKA'S XR
18 " King Wheels, Lowered King Springs,DBA Slotted Rotors, Grille, CIA
More to come....

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: electric water pump (9 rwkw)
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 9:42 am 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 41

Posts: 10829

Joined: 17th Apr 2005

Gallery: 34 images

Ride: BF MK11 XR 6 TURBO ZF 6spd

Power: 225 rwkw

Location: glenwood/sydney
NSW, Australia

agreed not enough mods for 150 rwkw..
im only 10 rwkw-20rwkw with many more mods to my old ef..
Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: electric water pump (9 rwkw)
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 4:31 pm 
Stock as a Rock
Offline
User avatar

Age: 41

Posts: 174

Joined: 9th May 2005

Ride: BF Fairmont

Location: Gippsland
VIC, Australia

4LEDboy wrote:
But do you really trust an electric pump? :?


Such as fuel pumps...

 

_________________

EB Ghia Leather interior & more - CLICK HERE

Lightning Strike '06 BF Fairmont - powered by ICOM JTG

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: electric water pump (9 rwkw)
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 4:41 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline

Age: 35

Posts: 2563

Joined: 19th Feb 2007

Gallery: 21 images

Ride: 98 EL Futura

Power: 199 rwkw

Location: Lilydale
VIC, Australia

Ghia5L wrote:
4LEDboy wrote:
But do you really trust an electric pump? :?


Such as fuel pumps...


Yeah, but when the fuel pump dies you know it, you cant drive the car. if a electric water pump goes you wont because the engine will still be going and will cook itself pretty quickly.

 

_________________

EL Futura: CVE head, Wolf V500, ICE Ignition and Coil, 36lb injectors, Walbro 255lb, Paci comps, 3" exhaust, T5, Harrop Truetrac with 3.9s. Now with 198.9rwkw, (~185rwkw and 13.80 @99.1mph) with more power to come

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: electric water pump (9 rwkw)
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 5:00 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Posts: 1539

Joined: 7th Mar 2007

Ride: ED Pwnage Pwr!!

Location: onawhoopwhoop
SA, Australia

GeZza200 wrote:
Ghia5L wrote:
4LEDboy wrote:
But do you really trust an electric pump? :?


Such as fuel pumps...


Yeah, but when the fuel pump dies you know it, you cant drive the car. if a electric water pump goes you wont because the engine will still be going and will cook itself pretty quickly.


Took the words right out of my mouth! :shock:

 

_________________

Adelaide Motorplex < Click on it! You know you want too!
ED HP AU XR6, Wade, T5, and all the usual stuff!

Quote:
Thats not the point *a**hole

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: electric water pump (9 rwkw)
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 5:04 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 56

Posts: 6467

Joined: 18th Dec 2006

Ride: 93 ED sedan

Power: 161 rwkw

Location: Rockhampton
QLD, Australia

Thats what temp guages are for ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^.

 

_________________

http://youtu.be/jJTh9F3Vgg0

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: electric water pump (9 rwkw)
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 5:20 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Posts: 1539

Joined: 7th Mar 2007

Ride: ED Pwnage Pwr!!

Location: onawhoopwhoop
SA, Australia

Oh well, I guess if ford trusts them, we could too?

Quote:
Davies Craig wins $1.4M deal to Supply Electric Water Pumps for Ford Electric Vehicles


Altona North, Victoria, January 20, 2008…. Iconic Australian automotive cooling technologies manufacturer, Davies, Craig Pty Ltd announced today it would supply its model EWP - Electric Water Pump to Ford Detroit for its new electric vehicle program, in a $1.4M pa deal.

Last week at the North American International Auto Show, Detroit, Ford Motor Co announced its plans to produce electric vehicles by 2011 that will have a single-charge range of 160 Kms, partnering with Ontario supplier Magna International Inc. for battery production.

Commenting on this announcement, Davies, Craig Managing Director, Mr. Richard Davies said: "This is another significant milestone in the company’s 40-year history. Our continued effort to find original equipment business has been the cornerstone of this company’s development and we are extremely proud to be associated with a global manufacturer like Ford. Our EWP is one of three models of Electric Water Pumps. It has a proven performance in the automotive aftermarket and it is an exciting development to now have this product accepted by a global automotive company for original equipment application”.
Davies, Craig proposes to manufacture its EWP in Altona and ship direct to Detroit and it will mean jobs for Australia. The EWP is being used on a number of prototype vehicles in USA, UK and Europe. Davies, Craig holds patents on its EWP technology in Australia, USA and across Europe.

Davies, Craig’s EWP® Cooling Technologies are part of the next generation of development in engine thermal management. Electronics and new technologies are now playing a greater role in cooling internal combustion engines, hybrids and electric vehicles, and they are delivering results that are hard to ignore. Engine cooling technologies are now being more closely examined and sophisticated new cooling systems enable the internal combustion engine to operate at higher temperatures with far greater efficiency. The innovations also provide more precise thermal management required for fuel cell and hybrid power train systems.
Traditional mechanical iron-age cooling systems rely on an engine-driven water pump, a restrictive thermostat, and a radiator — all of which add considerable weight and consume vehicle power. While these mechanical systems have met basic cooling needs for several decades, the pace of change for vehicle thermal management is heating up with the onset of rapidly rising petroleum products.

Smarter cooling systems feature rapidly evolving technologies such as an Electric Water Pump. Davies, Craig introduced the world’s first universal fit Electric Water Pump the EWP®80 in 1999 and have since sold over 25,000 units

 

_________________

Adelaide Motorplex < Click on it! You know you want too!
ED HP AU XR6, Wade, T5, and all the usual stuff!

Quote:
Thats not the point *a**hole

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: electric water pump (9 rwkw)
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 5:20 pm 
Stock as a Rock
Offline
User avatar

Age: 41

Posts: 174

Joined: 9th May 2005

Ride: BF Fairmont

Location: Gippsland
VIC, Australia

cjh wrote:
Thats what temp guages are for ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^.


Took the words right out of my mouth! :shock:

 

_________________

EB Ghia Leather interior & more - CLICK HERE

Lightning Strike '06 BF Fairmont - powered by ICOM JTG

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: electric water pump (9 rwkw)
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 7:27 pm 
Fordmods Addict
Offline
User avatar

Age: 38

Posts: 7958

Joined: 1st Jun 2005

Gallery: 13 images

Ride: Falcon

Power: 237 rwkw

Location: Melbourne
VIC, Australia

cjh wrote:
Thats what temp guages are for ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^.

Yeah should give you a good idea of how hot your thermostat housing is getting ;)
Gonna react a little bit slower with no coolant flow!
I just don't see the advantage in a street car.

4ledboy wrote:
Oh well, I guess if ford trusts them, we could too?

Ford trusts them on an electric car, f**k knows what they are using it for.
Maybe something to do with fuel cell? Maybe not even cooling.
Probably running water through a heat exchanger for the heater LOL

 

_________________

ED XR8 Sprint - S-Trim, V500, 249rwkw
BF MKII F6 Tornado - 237rwkw

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: electric water pump (9 rwkw)
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 12:23 am 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 42

Posts: 1775

Joined: 10th Jul 2007

Gallery: 8 images

Ride: BFII Turbo

Power: 253 rwkw

Location: Waurn Ponds
VIC, Australia

anything that puts load on the engine ie aircon, clutch fans, power steering, water pump etc being taken off will result in a gain. They require drive from the engine to work, and taking them off will ease that load. Call me adventurous, but Im actually quite keen to give the electro pump a go one day. Technology advances, and the only reason they made it so the pump was engine driven was because the technology in alternators and electro pumps wernt viable in performance reliability and cost. Id imagine that would be different nowdays with the possible exception of cost for factory cars.

sticking the boot into a normal engine means the accesories are getting the same treatment. I know, a blockage in the radiator + a quick drop and squirt on the highway on the bendigo cruise = one blown out radiator. My bro's ef had a waterpump you could barely turn by hand after we replaced it, as it had been flogged out.

with the right belt setup I wouldnt be afraid to use one, its just australian to stick to the tried and true, new tech always trickles down slowly in this country. remember our ford sixes were single cam till the VCT XR6... I wonder if there was the same resistence to change when people started refitting older clutch fan engines with thermo's * oh i dunno billy bob, maybe it wont make enough e-lektrisity and we gone dang blow up!*

and can we stfu about the power outputs/vs mods done? this isnt an arguement wether or not this car makes said 150rwkw (maybe doesnt know all the mods) is a discusion about the validity of electro water pumps. This is how most threads end up, starts out usefull, then ends up everyone bagging everyone out about how BS dunb douchebag they are.

 

_________________

enough isn't enough

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: electric water pump (9 rwkw)
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 8:04 am 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 45

Posts: 694

Joined: 6th Apr 2007

Ride: 98 NL, 97NL, 98EL

Power: 141 rwkw

Location: Sunny Coast or Beerburrum
QLD, Australia

hiya, just been reading though this thread, and have had a look at the craig davis pumps,

Do the ones that come from your 4.0ltr motor, you it was meantioned in a EB, how does it mount on?? and is there a pulley on it?? I can guess in the EB if it had the three belts setup, you could bypass the water pump with just a smaller fan belt, to the alternator,
But how would it be done on the 1 belt cars? ef ontowards??

Laticia.

 

_________________

BANNED!!!!

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: electric water pump (9 rwkw)
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 6:20 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline

Age: 33

Posts: 1323

Joined: 12th Nov 2006

Gallery: 9 images

Ride: 02 xls ute 347

Location: adelaide
SA, Australia

the electric water pump does not have a pulley that's why you gain the extra power less load on the engine. im not to sure if it keeps the engine cooler or not so maybe that factor makes it faster.

 

_________________

02 series 3 AU marline ute 5speed 347 stroker

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: electric water pump (9 rwkw)
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:34 am 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 51

Posts: 3424

Joined: 23rd Dec 2007

Gallery: 32 images

Ride: BA XR6T (mix of BA, BF and FG)

Location: Perth
WA, Australia

I would give an electric one a shot for 7kw... I'd also wire it up so the engine died if the pump did, no risk of failure damage then.

Electric motors can last a bloody long time if they are well made and well designed. Quite a bit longer than a fan belt I'd guess and with exactly the same result if one lets go.

My cars are Ghia's and if the engine temp goes up.. I get all manner of beeping coming from the dash.. (I know because I lost a fan belt not long ago.) hard to miss that.

We trust thermo's to keep our radiator cool too, they are a 15 year old design and manufacture.. and they last a pretty long time also.

rgds

Frank

Last edited by frankieh on Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:04 am, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: electric water pump (9 rwkw)
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:55 pm 
Fordmods Newbie
Offline

Posts: 12

Joined: 23rd Aug 2006

Location: Yarra
VIC, Australia

And you have ultimate faith in a mechanical pump?

Personally I'd trust an electrical pump more.
Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: electric water pump (9 rwkw)
Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 12:20 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 56

Posts: 6467

Joined: 18th Dec 2006

Ride: 93 ED sedan

Power: 161 rwkw

Location: Rockhampton
QLD, Australia

I use an electric coolant pump for my Photon Pulse drive reactor engine in conjunction with a Flux-capacitor for time travel functions..........................LOL......... :lol:

 

_________________

http://youtu.be/jJTh9F3Vgg0

Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:
Sort by  
 Page 2 of 4  [ 50 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4  Next

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 50 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

 

 

It is currently Fri Mar 29, 2024 6:41 pm All times are UTC + 11 hours

 

 

(c)2014 Total Web Solutions Australia - Australian Web Hosting and Domain Names