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 Post subject: Re: electric water pump (9 rwkw)
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:54 am 
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 Post subject: Re: electric water pump (9 rwkw)
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 9:42 am 
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agreed not enough mods for 150 rwkw..
im only 10 rwkw-20rwkw with many more mods to my old ef..

 

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 Post subject: Re: electric water pump (9 rwkw)
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 4:31 pm 
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4LEDboy wrote:
But do you really trust an electric pump? :?


Such as fuel pumps...

 

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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 4:41 pm 
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But do you really trust an electric pump? :?


Such as fuel pumps...


Yeah, but when the fuel pump dies you know it, you cant drive the car. if a electric water pump goes you wont because the engine will still be going and will cook itself pretty quickly.

 

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 Post subject: Re: electric water pump (9 rwkw)
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 5:00 pm 
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GeZza200 wrote:
Ghia5L wrote:
4LEDboy wrote:
But do you really trust an electric pump? :?


Such as fuel pumps...


Yeah, but when the fuel pump dies you know it, you cant drive the car. if a electric water pump goes you wont because the engine will still be going and will cook itself pretty quickly.


Took the words right out of my mouth! :shock:

 

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 Post subject: Re: electric water pump (9 rwkw)
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 5:04 pm 
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Thats what temp guages are for ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^.

 

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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 5:20 pm 
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Oh well, I guess if ford trusts them, we could too?

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Davies Craig wins $1.4M deal to Supply Electric Water Pumps for Ford Electric Vehicles


Altona North, Victoria, January 20, 2008…. Iconic Australian automotive cooling technologies manufacturer, Davies, Craig Pty Ltd announced today it would supply its model EWP - Electric Water Pump to Ford Detroit for its new electric vehicle program, in a $1.4M pa deal.

Last week at the North American International Auto Show, Detroit, Ford Motor Co announced its plans to produce electric vehicles by 2011 that will have a single-charge range of 160 Kms, partnering with Ontario supplier Magna International Inc. for battery production.

Commenting on this announcement, Davies, Craig Managing Director, Mr. Richard Davies said: "This is another significant milestone in the company’s 40-year history. Our continued effort to find original equipment business has been the cornerstone of this company’s development and we are extremely proud to be associated with a global manufacturer like Ford. Our EWP is one of three models of Electric Water Pumps. It has a proven performance in the automotive aftermarket and it is an exciting development to now have this product accepted by a global automotive company for original equipment application”.
Davies, Craig proposes to manufacture its EWP in Altona and ship direct to Detroit and it will mean jobs for Australia. The EWP is being used on a number of prototype vehicles in USA, UK and Europe. Davies, Craig holds patents on its EWP technology in Australia, USA and across Europe.

Davies, Craig’s EWP® Cooling Technologies are part of the next generation of development in engine thermal management. Electronics and new technologies are now playing a greater role in cooling internal combustion engines, hybrids and electric vehicles, and they are delivering results that are hard to ignore. Engine cooling technologies are now being more closely examined and sophisticated new cooling systems enable the internal combustion engine to operate at higher temperatures with far greater efficiency. The innovations also provide more precise thermal management required for fuel cell and hybrid power train systems.
Traditional mechanical iron-age cooling systems rely on an engine-driven water pump, a restrictive thermostat, and a radiator — all of which add considerable weight and consume vehicle power. While these mechanical systems have met basic cooling needs for several decades, the pace of change for vehicle thermal management is heating up with the onset of rapidly rising petroleum products.

Smarter cooling systems feature rapidly evolving technologies such as an Electric Water Pump. Davies, Craig introduced the world’s first universal fit Electric Water Pump the EWP®80 in 1999 and have since sold over 25,000 units

 

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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 5:20 pm 
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Thats what temp guages are for ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^.


Took the words right out of my mouth! :shock:

 

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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 7:27 pm 
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cjh wrote:
Thats what temp guages are for ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^.

Yeah should give you a good idea of how hot your thermostat housing is getting ;)
Gonna react a little bit slower with no coolant flow!
I just don't see the advantage in a street car.

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Oh well, I guess if ford trusts them, we could too?

Ford trusts them on an electric car, f**k knows what they are using it for.
Maybe something to do with fuel cell? Maybe not even cooling.
Probably running water through a heat exchanger for the heater LOL

 

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 Post subject: Re: electric water pump (9 rwkw)
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 12:23 am 
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anything that puts load on the engine ie aircon, clutch fans, power steering, water pump etc being taken off will result in a gain. They require drive from the engine to work, and taking them off will ease that load. Call me adventurous, but Im actually quite keen to give the electro pump a go one day. Technology advances, and the only reason they made it so the pump was engine driven was because the technology in alternators and electro pumps wernt viable in performance reliability and cost. Id imagine that would be different nowdays with the possible exception of cost for factory cars.

sticking the boot into a normal engine means the accesories are getting the same treatment. I know, a blockage in the radiator + a quick drop and squirt on the highway on the bendigo cruise = one blown out radiator. My bro's ef had a waterpump you could barely turn by hand after we replaced it, as it had been flogged out.

with the right belt setup I wouldnt be afraid to use one, its just australian to stick to the tried and true, new tech always trickles down slowly in this country. remember our ford sixes were single cam till the VCT XR6... I wonder if there was the same resistence to change when people started refitting older clutch fan engines with thermo's * oh i dunno billy bob, maybe it wont make enough e-lektrisity and we gone dang blow up!*

and can we stfu about the power outputs/vs mods done? this isnt an arguement wether or not this car makes said 150rwkw (maybe doesnt know all the mods) is a discusion about the validity of electro water pumps. This is how most threads end up, starts out usefull, then ends up everyone bagging everyone out about how BS dunb douchebag they are.

 

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 Post subject: Re: electric water pump (9 rwkw)
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 8:04 am 
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hiya, just been reading though this thread, and have had a look at the craig davis pumps,

Do the ones that come from your 4.0ltr motor, you it was meantioned in a EB, how does it mount on?? and is there a pulley on it?? I can guess in the EB if it had the three belts setup, you could bypass the water pump with just a smaller fan belt, to the alternator,
But how would it be done on the 1 belt cars? ef ontowards??

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Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 6:20 pm 
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the electric water pump does not have a pulley that's why you gain the extra power less load on the engine. im not to sure if it keeps the engine cooler or not so maybe that factor makes it faster.

 

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 Post subject: Re: electric water pump (9 rwkw)
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:34 am 
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I would give an electric one a shot for 7kw... I'd also wire it up so the engine died if the pump did, no risk of failure damage then.

Electric motors can last a bloody long time if they are well made and well designed. Quite a bit longer than a fan belt I'd guess and with exactly the same result if one lets go.

My cars are Ghia's and if the engine temp goes up.. I get all manner of beeping coming from the dash.. (I know because I lost a fan belt not long ago.) hard to miss that.

We trust thermo's to keep our radiator cool too, they are a 15 year old design and manufacture.. and they last a pretty long time also.

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 Post subject: Re: electric water pump (9 rwkw)
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:55 pm 
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And you have ultimate faith in a mechanical pump?

Personally I'd trust an electrical pump more.
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Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 12:20 pm 
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I use an electric coolant pump for my Photon Pulse drive reactor engine in conjunction with a Flux-capacitor for time travel functions..........................LOL......... :lol:

 

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