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 Post subject: Extractors?
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 2:35 am 
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Im getting myself a set or paceys and just wana know,

if i get the 4480's do i have to get a different heat shield?

I've heard Yes i do, no you can just bend it, Use AU, all sorts of stuff

Just wana know if i can keep the 1 i have now and bend it?

**Or, is there anything else i need to change/do/get?**

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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:41 am 
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you will struggle to get it over 4480's

 

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 Post subject: Re: Extractors?
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 12:28 pm 
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Will it cover the 4499's easier?

Whats the difference in the 2?

 

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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 1:34 pm 
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It will bend out to cover the 4499's easy. Looks good too. 4480's are completely different with pipes twisting everywhere lol for tuned length and longer secondarys to further under the car iirc. Supposed to be better for low down torque.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Extractors?
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 1:47 pm 
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finnigan001 wrote:
It will bend out to cover the 4499's easy. Looks good too. 4480's are completely different with pipes twisting everywhere lol for tuned length and longer secondarys to further under the car iirc. Supposed to be better for low down torque.


4480 are for mid range top end, 4499's for down low and mid.

Both are better everywhere than the stock headers.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Extractors?
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:16 pm 
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Spoondog wrote:
finnigan001 wrote:
It will bend out to cover the 4499's easy. Looks good too. 4480's are completely different with pipes twisting everywhere lol for tuned length and longer secondarys to further under the car iirc. Supposed to be better for low down torque.


4480 are for mid range top end, 4499's for down low and mid.

Both are better everywhere than the stock headers.


I disagree, I recently removed my pacemaker 4499's and high flow cat and fitted stock headers and vgc stock cat. (modifying my pacies with longer secondaries when I have time like the JMM streetfighter headers)

Anyway just with the 2.5in exhaust the car is alot quicker too 60. From 60-100 not much difference at all, but you notice the extractors make an improvement from 4500rpm-5500rpm. Still getting around 8secs flat 0-100 with both exhaust systems.

In heavy traffic the car has alot more poke off the line and around corners (extractors cause engine bay heat soak even with a AU heat shield fitted. This results in the car becoming a pig off the line). Running a cold air intake also....

Results would be less noticeable on a manual 5spd I would say........

 

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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:35 pm 
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EL___Fairmont wrote:
Spoondog wrote:
finnigan001 wrote:
It will bend out to cover the 4499's easy. Looks good too. 4480's are completely different with pipes twisting everywhere lol for tuned length and longer secondarys to further under the car iirc. Supposed to be better for low down torque.


4480 are for mid range top end, 4499's for down low and mid.

Both are better everywhere than the stock headers.


I disagree, I recently removed my pacemaker 4499's and high flow cat and fitted stock headers and vgc stock cat. (modifying my pacies with longer secondaries when I have time like the JMM streetfighter headers)

Anyway just with the 2.5in exhaust the car is alot quicker too 60. From 60-100 not much difference at all, but you notice the extractors make an improvement from 4500rpm-5500rpm. Still getting around 8secs flat 0-100 with both exhaust systems.

In heavy traffic the car has alot more poke off the line and around corners (extractors cause engine bay heat soak even with a AU heat shield fitted. This results in the car becoming a pig off the line). Running a cold air intake also....

Results would be less noticeable on a manual 5spd I would say........


not this argument again..................................................................................

some times i wish pacemaker would just discontinue one of them.

 

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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:46 pm 
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EL___Fairmont wrote:
Spoondog wrote:
finnigan001 wrote:
It will bend out to cover the 4499's easy. Looks good too. 4480's are completely different with pipes twisting everywhere lol for tuned length and longer secondarys to further under the car iirc. Supposed to be better for low down torque.


4480 are for mid range top end, 4499's for down low and mid.

Both are better everywhere than the stock headers.


I disagree, I recently removed my pacemaker 4499's and high flow cat and fitted stock headers and vgc stock cat. (modifying my pacies with longer secondaries when I have time like the JMM streetfighter headers)

Anyway just with the 2.5in exhaust the car is alot quicker too 60. From 60-100 not much difference at all, but you notice the extractors make an improvement from 4500rpm-5500rpm. Still getting around 8secs flat 0-100 with both exhaust systems.

In heavy traffic the car has alot more poke off the line and around corners (extractors cause engine bay heat soak even with a AU heat shield fitted. This results in the car becoming a pig off the line). Running a cold air intake also....

Results would be less noticeable on a manual 5spd I would say........


not this argument again..................................................................................

some times i wish pacemaker would just discontinue one of them.


yes I know Tickford_6, I should have got the 4480's...lol... Do you think about increasing the length of the secondaries will work, all am i just pissing in the wind.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Extractors?
Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 11:50 am 
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haha wow this is giving me a headache :lol:

So... basically....

What one's should i get and what else should i grab while im at it?

Still new to this kinda thing :wink:

 

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Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 12:44 am 
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I just got 4499s on my eb with stock cat and 2.5in.
No huge differences but it is better.

I think the car drives smoother at all speeds, even more so driving slow in carparks and cornering.

The exhaust note is deeper and sounds good but didn't drasticly make it louder.

She does feel slower off the mark but when your start pulling 3500+ there is a noticable power differance.
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The engine revs out smoother and seems to be running quieter.

Don't expect some crazy power increase.
Just a nicer overall drive.
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Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 3:27 am 
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That's what im looking for, a nice overall drive

and a little more performance, obviously im not expecting a massive power increase just cos of these, but definatly do want them

 

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Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 3:52 pm 
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Spoondog wrote:
finnigan001 wrote:
It will bend out to cover the 4499's easy. Looks good too. 4480's are completely different with pipes twisting everywhere lol for tuned length and longer secondarys to further under the car iirc. Supposed to be better for low down torque.


4480 are for mid range top end, 4499's for down low and mid.

Both are better everywhere than the stock headers.


im sick of this debate, 4480 have same top as 4499 but also more mid and low down.
dont take my word for it, call pacemaker and ask

 

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Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 3:56 pm 
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Opened up a can of worms here :lol:

Do i HAVE to have a heat shield over the extractors? mate doesn't have 1 over his and seems to be going fine :?

 

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Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 4:26 pm 
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you dont need one at all mate.

 

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