Fordmods Logo

Ford have quoted $1162 to replace all front engine oil seals 

 

Page 2 of 3 [ 35 posts ] Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next

 
 Post subject: Re: Ford have quoted $1062 to replace all front engine oil seals
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 9:14 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 33

Posts: 2282

Joined: 14th Jan 2005

Gallery: 8 images

Ride: ED Fairmont Ghia & EF XR8

Location: Melbourne
VIC, Australia

Kit wrote:
Crank seals, timing cover, sump gasket etc.

They've quoted 7.5hours of labor.

I also get big drops of very green coolant under the harmonic balancer from time to time. The oil seals are leaking quite a bit in the that area, hence the quote to fix. But where would the coolant be coming from. It's not dirty coolant at all, but fresh. No where near the overflow either so definately not that?
Head gasket was fixed 2-months ago.

Any ideas?


at $110 per hour that's $825 in labour alone
which leaves $337

the thing to remember with dealers is that the religiously stick to times allocated in the service manual.

ask them to use aftermarket parts to bring the price down a little

just tell them if they cant help by bringing the price down a little then you will be forced to take it elsewhere

ask and ye shall receive

 

_________________

Image

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Ford have quoted $1062 to replace all front engine oil seals
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 9:30 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Posts: 2644

Joined: 6th Nov 2004

Gallery: 8 images

Ride: 2007

Location: Mount Annan
NSW, Australia

Check the radiator for a split that is spraying the front of the motor.

 

_________________

BF Fairmont Ghia Series II update.
GQ XR6T ghia patrol.

,======o00o
//__|__|_,\_____\,___
|_/--\'_|'__|_/--\_[]IIII[]
_( o ) )_____( o ) )=o=) )__

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Ford have quoted $1062 to replace all front engine oil seals
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 9:53 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline

Posts: 6449

Joined: 11th Nov 2004

nannas_ed wrote:
Kit wrote:
Crank seals, timing cover, sump gasket etc.

They've quoted 7.5hours of labor.

I also get big drops of very green coolant under the harmonic balancer from time to time. The oil seals are leaking quite a bit in the that area, hence the quote to fix. But where would the coolant be coming from. It's not dirty coolant at all, but fresh. No where near the overflow either so definately not that?
Head gasket was fixed 2-months ago.

Any ideas?


at $110 per hour that's $825 in labour alone
which leaves $337

the thing to remember with dealers is that the religiously stick to times allocated in the service manual.

ask them to use aftermarket parts to bring the price down a little

just tell them if they cant help by bringing the price down a little then you will be forced to take it elsewhere

ask and ye shall receive


If some one asked me to drop the price or they'll go elsewhere, i would politely recommend they go elsewhere.
I'm not saying that price is good.
We quote to keep our bills paid and our doors open. I don't have time to waste on jobs that can't profit.
I won't even provide a quote, I'll given an estimate, and that estimate is subject to change upon disassembly, as it just not posible for anyone to foresee what might be inside a 10+ year old engine or gearbox ect.

 

_________________

PERMANENTLY BANNED

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Ford have quoted $1062 to replace all front engine oil seals
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 10:33 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 33

Posts: 2282

Joined: 14th Jan 2005

Gallery: 8 images

Ride: ED Fairmont Ghia & EF XR8

Location: Melbourne
VIC, Australia

tickford_6 wrote:
nannas_ed wrote:
Kit wrote:
Crank seals, timing cover, sump gasket etc.

They've quoted 7.5hours of labor.

I also get big drops of very green coolant under the harmonic balancer from time to time. The oil seals are leaking quite a bit in the that area, hence the quote to fix. But where would the coolant be coming from. It's not dirty coolant at all, but fresh. No where near the overflow either so definately not that?
Head gasket was fixed 2-months ago.

Any ideas?


at $110 per hour that's $825 in labour alone
which leaves $337

the thing to remember with dealers is that the religiously stick to times allocated in the service manual.

ask them to use aftermarket parts to bring the price down a little

just tell them if they cant help by bringing the price down a little then you will be forced to take it elsewhere

ask and ye shall receive


If some one asked me to drop the price or they'll go elsewhere, i would politely recommend they go elsewhere.
I'm not saying that price is good.
We quote to keep our bills paid and our doors open. I don't have time to waste on jobs that can't profit.
I won't even provide a quote, I'll given an estimate, and that estimate is subject to change upon disassembly, as it just not possible for anyone to foresee what might be inside a 10+ year old engine or gearbox ect.


I understand what your saying, i really do. And In no way did i say demand a better price (it just reads that way). You just have to be pollite about things as a customer when discussing "prices"

I get hassled to drop my prices by every single one of my customers every single day and most times i do. The way i see it i would rather discount my price and make a X amount of profit as opposed to not moving on my prices and make no profit at all.

 

_________________

Image

Last edited by nannas_ed on Fri Jul 31, 2009 11:56 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Ford have quoted $1062 to replace all front engine oil seals
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 11:51 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline

Age: 38

Posts: 1319

Joined: 5th Nov 2004

Ride: 66 Coupe

Location: Perth
WA, Australia

Kit wrote:
Crank seals, timing cover, sump gasket etc.

They've quoted 7.5hours of labor.

I also get big drops of very green coolant under the harmonic balancer from time to time. The oil seals are leaking quite a bit in the that area, hence the quote to fix. But where would the coolant be coming from. It's not dirty coolant at all, but fresh. No where near the overflow either so definately not that?
Head gasket was fixed 2-months ago.

Any ideas?


Is the sump gasket actually leaking.... sump gasket, ideally is a motor out job, but its not very common for them to leak, badly anyway.
Front seal maybe, and could possibly require a new balancer.
Oil leaks can also come from timing cover bolts, chain tensioner etc.

Coolant could be w/pump, top hose, thermostat housing, a number of things. Need to pressure test it.

Where in perth are you?
Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Ford have quoted $1062 to replace all front engine oil seals
Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 5:05 am 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 48

Posts: 2537

Joined: 5th Nov 2004

Gallery: 13 images

Ride: EFII Fairmont

Location: Perth
WA, Australia

I'm in Swan View.

The tensioner screw o-ring was done about 6-weeks ago. That too was leaking oil.

I think all this was caused by a serious error when I had the head gasket replaced 3-months ago.

We accidently put around 8 1/2 litres of oil back in, and I drove around like that for almost a week.
I think it blew out or weakened some seals around the front of the engine.

I just want to fix it so it doesn't drip on my mum nice paved driveway, or my new driveway when my house is finished.
Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Ford have quoted $1062 to replace all front engine oil seals
Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 5:13 am 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 48

Posts: 2537

Joined: 5th Nov 2004

Gallery: 13 images

Ride: EFII Fairmont

Location: Perth
WA, Australia

66 coupe wrote:
Kit wrote:
Crank seals, timing cover, sump gasket etc.

They've quoted 7.5hours of labor.

I also get big drops of very green coolant under the harmonic balancer from time to time. The oil seals are leaking quite a bit in the that area, hence the quote to fix. But where would the coolant be coming from. It's not dirty coolant at all, but fresh. No where near the overflow either so definately not that?
Head gasket was fixed 2-months ago.

Any ideas?


Is the sump gasket actually leaking.... sump gasket, ideally is a motor out job, but its not very common for them to leak, badly anyway.
Front seal maybe, and could possibly require a new balancer.
Oil leaks can also come from timing cover bolts, chain tensioner etc.

Coolant could be w/pump, top hose, thermostat housing, a number of things. Need to pressure test it.

Where in perth are you?


Apparently Ford somehow can pull the motor up a bit and drop the k-frame.

I'm not sure how this procedure is done, how can this be done when the engine is still connected to the gear box. And can that put stress on the rear main oil seal?

I'm considering and engine change now. Will check into it ASAP.
Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Ford have quoted $1162 to replace all front engine oil seals
Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 10:08 am 
Parts Gopher
Offline

Age: 34

Posts: 88

Joined: 10th Jul 2009

Ride: 1992 EB Fairmont

Location: Bendigo
VIC, Australia

Yer I have done sump seal in the car, not in a e series mind you, but basically you can un do the engine mount's and jack up the engine till the bell housing hits the firewall. Its not a problem cause the box is mounted on a rubber mount and the main stress would be on the bolts from the bell housing to the motor.
Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Ford have quoted $1062 to replace all front engine oil seals
Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 2:16 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline

Posts: 6449

Joined: 11th Nov 2004

Kit wrote:

Apparently Ford somehow can pull the motor up a bit and drop the k-frame.

I'm not sure how this procedure is done, how can this be done when the engine is still connected to the gear box. And can that put stress on the rear main oil seal?

I'm considering and engine change now. Will check into it ASAP.


No it can't put stress on the rear seal. the gear box is still bolted to the engine, all they are doing is lifting it from the front and pivoting the whole thing on the gear box mount.


nannas_ed wrote:

I understand what your saying, i really do. And In no way did i say demand a better price (it just reads that way). You just have to be pollite about things as a customer when discussing "prices"

I get hassled to drop my prices by every single one of my customers every single day and most times i do. The way i see it i would rather discount my price and make a X amount of profit as opposed to not moving on my prices and make no profit at all.


I guess i depends on your situation. For every 1 customer i loose by not shifting on price there are 10 others waiting in line.

 

_________________

PERMANENTLY BANNED

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Ford have quoted $1062 to replace all front engine oil seals
Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 2:47 pm 
Oompa Loompa
Offline

Age: 31

Posts: 47

Joined: 13th Jul 2009

Ride: 1993 ED Fairmont

Location: Newcastle
NSW, Australia

nannas_ed wrote:
and make no profit at all.


+1

In addition, you may in the longrun be better off dropping the price alittle, I know that when i go to a mechanic, or anywhere really and they do a good job and are willing to be flexible on the price (even if its say $20 off) I will go to them again.

Having returning customers far outways the profit made by overcharging 1 customer and never seing them again.
Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Ford have quoted $1062 to replace all front engine oil seals
Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 3:09 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline

Posts: 6449

Joined: 11th Nov 2004

shaved_ED wrote:
nannas_ed wrote:
and make no profit at all.


+1

In addition, you may in the longrun be better off dropping the price alittle, I know that when i go to a mechanic, or anywhere really and they do a good job and are willing to be flexible on the price (even if its say $20 off) I will go to them again.

Having returning customers far outways the profit made by overcharging 1 customer and never seing them again.



Thats the difference. I don't over charge, i charge what the job is worth. The price i give is the lowest price i can give. There is no room to move. The guys that can afford to drop the price a little are the ones over quoting/over charging.

In the long run, you are better off doing quality work and charging the correct the price in the first place. If that means the job ended up costing slightly more or less then the original estimate then thats what you charge.

Id rather be known as the mechanic that does good quality work.

 

_________________

PERMANENTLY BANNED

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Ford have quoted $1162 to replace all front engine oil seals
Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 8:03 am 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 48

Posts: 2537

Joined: 5th Nov 2004

Gallery: 13 images

Ride: EFII Fairmont

Location: Perth
WA, Australia

Geoff Kendrick in Perth has quoted $2800 for an exchange reco engine fitted.

I think I know which way I'm going now.....
Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Ford have quoted $1162 to replace all front engine oil seals
Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 9:00 am 
Getting Side Ways
Offline

Posts: 6449

Joined: 11th Nov 2004

Kit wrote:
Geoff Kendrick in Perth has quoted $2800 for an exchange reco engine fitted.

I think I know which way I'm going now.....



thats a good price

 

_________________

PERMANENTLY BANNED

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Ford have quoted $1162 to replace all front engine oil seals
Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 5:46 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 28

Posts: 2515

Joined: 27th Mar 2006

Gallery: 1 images

Ride: FG MkII Xr6t Ute

Location: Brisbane
QLD, Australia

Kit wrote:
Geoff Kendrick in Perth has quoted $2800 for an exchange reco engine fitted.

I think I know which way I'm going now.....


Does that mean you are going to get the reco engine?

 

_________________

EVL098 wrote:
Cramping in the hand from having it on your Wang for an excessive period of time is a definate con.
Seriously do people google "f**k up modifications for Fords owned by Jews" and get linked straight to this site nowadays?

AU,factory fitted tickford kit/IRS, t5,Sports ryder/KYB: gone.

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Ford have quoted $1162 to replace all front engine oil seals
Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 3:46 am 
Getting Side Ways
Offline

Age: 37

Posts: 1273

Joined: 30th Sep 2007

Ride: g6e 2009

Location: hiding in the bushes
WA, Australia

leaking coolant could be the top thermostat housing spout. on my au the spout where the top radiator hose connects to the thermostat housing corroded. couldnt see it as it was covered by the hose. only a small hole but took me a week to find. replaced the top housing with a unit from supercrap and voila.
Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:
Sort by  
 Page 2 of 3  [ 35 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot], PhilsMont and 35 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

 

 

It is currently Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:43 pm All times are UTC + 11 hours

 

 

(c)2014 Total Web Solutions Australia - Australian Web Hosting and Domain Names