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 Post subject: Re: have i installed my dizzy correctly?
Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 11:27 am 
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:D hey lowie---if you hadnt turned the motor while installing the welsh plugs --IT WAS STILL IN THE RIGHT POSITION---you will now be 360deg out on the motor & 180deg out on distributer. to correct--[1] put back to top/d/centre--[2] dizzy should now be back on FINISH mark, if not turn a bit to align up--[3] remove dissy--should be on START mark once out--[4] turn motor 360deg to t/d/c mark again--[5] install dissy--if pointing to start as you put in--should end on finish when fully down--[6] if dissy wont go completly down al the way--while keeping downward pressure on dissy - turn motor clockwise by hand--dissy will drop in once oil drive on bottom lines up--[7]replace all other parts that you removed & START..... :mrgreen:

Good advise but the motor has been turned over many times know so rhe only way to set it is to start again and do it staticaly. You have had it running so it is realy close. with dizzy 180deg out it wont even cough when trying to start.
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Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 7:37 pm 
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i couldnt do anything to the car today because of the weather..

i know im on the right track, when i lined up TDC with piston 1 on cumbustion the rotar was facing completely opposite the start and finsh markings, so ive cleared that up.. now its just fine tuning it...

And yes the only way it would splutter and struggle to stay alive was when it was fully retarted.. it would die after about 2-3 seconds after disengaging the starter motor..

hopefully the weather is good enough to have a fiddle tomorrow.. :)
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 Post subject: Re: have i installed my dizzy correctly?
Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:35 pm 
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ok, i had a play around today, and moved it one tooth up.. and it fired up!! so thats a good start.. problem is it doesnt have much power when driving.. i cant advance the dizzy anymore.. am i able to rotate the rotor one more tooth at all? and not run it with it being advance as far as i can turn the cap??
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:19 pm 
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That's the same problem I had. If you have a socket (5/16" I think) and a 1/4" driver handle, you can turn the oil pump shaft clockwise 1/8 to 1/4 of a turn. That will give you some more advance adjustment. The dizzy has to be out to do it though. Be careful not to lose the socket.

 

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 Post subject: Re: have i installed my dizzy correctly?
Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:49 pm 
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so i can or cant move it up one more tooth?
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:27 am 
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Yes, you can try moving it one more tooth first if it seats properly. I was thinking of rotating the whole dizzy assembly relative to the oil pump shaft position. My EA Bosch dizzy wouldn't do that for some reason.

 

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 Post subject: Re: have i installed my dizzy correctly?
Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 10:45 am 
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Yep if you've run out of advance, back it up one more tooth. Do you have a timing light to check it once it is running?
I don't know anything about turning the oil pump drive, never had cause to have to do it before.
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 10:55 am 
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if the dizzy wont go into the spot you want, leave the dizzy in where you are trying to put it. put a socket onto the harmonic balancer bolt and slowly turn the engine clockwise and every cm or so give the dizzy shaft a wriggle. and within half a crank rotation the oil pump shaft should line up and the dizzy will drop down..
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 Post subject: Re: have i installed my dizzy correctly?
Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 2:35 pm 
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yes i have a timing light to check afterwards. do i have to put it diagnostic mode to check?
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lowie57 wrote:
yes i have a timing light to check afterwards. do i have to put it diagnostic mode to check?

Yep. And also to re set.
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 8:18 pm 
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what happens if you dont put it in diagnostics mode to adjust?
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 Post subject: Re: have i installed my dizzy correctly?
Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 10:03 pm 
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well i advanced it one tooth and got the power to a point that im satisfied with..

I did notice tho if i was at idle, and put it into gear, after about 5 seconds it would start to hunt for idle.. not sure how to fix that?

and also i noticed that when in idle, if you give it a rev.. it would hang around 1500rpm when i took my foot of for about 5 seconds and slowly comes back down..?
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Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 12:22 am 
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If you've had the battery disconnected, it might run rough for a little while until the ECU 'relearns'. With the idle, you could go give the ISC a clean with some carby cleaner & a brush. Carbon gums up the spring mechanism over time.

Have you checked all your wires and vacuum hoses are on properly?

 

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