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 Post subject: HELP, HEAPS of BLACK SMOKE- Eb 4L, EL XR6 Head,Wade Cam
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 9:20 pm 
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Hi ppl, just need some help, i have Put an El Xr6 head and wade stage 2 cam on my Eb 4L.now the timing has not changed as i cable-tied the timing chain to the cam gear. it had band new oil, oil filter and plugs. ignition leads r on correctly, runs rough still and blows heaps of black smoke which i believe is oil problem.

what could this be?
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 Post subject: Re: HELP, HEAPS of BLACK SMOKE- Eb 4L, EL XR6 Head,Wade Cam
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 9:31 pm 
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did u just throw the cam straight in? or have you tuned it and adjusted the TPS voltage? also what Wade cam is it?

black smoke is a sign of running rich.

 

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 Post subject: Re: HELP, HEAPS of BLACK SMOKE- Eb 4L, EL XR6 Head,Wade Cam
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 9:41 pm 
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did u just throw the cam straight in? or have you tuned it and adjusted the TPS voltage? also what Wade cam is it?

black smoke is a sign of running rich.


yeh, put cam straight in, was told it may not need tuning coz the timing chain had not come off cam gear, tps voltage not changed, wade stage 2 regrind im sure

 

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 Post subject: Re: HELP, HEAPS of BLACK SMOKE- Eb 4L, EL XR6 Head,Wade Cam
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 9:41 pm 
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yeh, put cam straight in, was told it may not need tuning coz the timing chain had not come off cam gear, tps voltage not changed, wade stage 2 regrind im sure

 

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 Post subject: Re: HELP, HEAPS of BLACK SMOKE- Eb 4L, EL XR6 Head,Wade Cam
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 12:04 am 
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Get on to Jason from T.I Performance, tell him all the details of your motor, cam grind number ect and he'll make you up a chip to correct the overfueling issues ect.

 

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 Post subject: Re: HELP, HEAPS of BLACK SMOKE- Eb 4L, EL XR6 Head,Wade Cam
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 12:15 am 
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Rat wrote:
wade stage 2 regrind im sure


that cam doesnt exist..... a part number should be engraved into the end of the cam. You could possibly have a massive Wade cam in there.... or you could have something like the 1636 which wont cause your car to pour out black smoke
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 Post subject: Re: HELP, HEAPS of BLACK SMOKE- Eb 4L, EL XR6 Head,Wade Cam
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 12:30 am 
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Check to see all vacuum lines are connected. And make sure the map is still connected too.

 

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 Post subject: Re: HELP, HEAPS of BLACK SMOKE- Eb 4L, EL XR6 Head,Wade Cam
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 1:24 pm 
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yeh map is all connecetd and so are vaccume hoses, still blows smoke..

 

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 Post subject: Re: HELP, HEAPS of BLACK SMOKE- Eb 4L, EL XR6 Head,Wade Cam
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 2:08 pm 
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if you cable tied the cam gear you obviously didn't install a vernier gear...

and you didn't time the cam shaft? You might have had to move that gear 1 tooth either way in the chain...

These things have to be timed to the crank and depending on the cam grind it could be anywhere... The specs sheet that cam with it will give you a lift at top centre on intake on number 1 cyl...

This sort of thing is not a straight swap over... you must check timing...

and I second that smoke is too much fuel... because its not time it could have backfired and blown the guts out of the map sensor, as when these fail over fuelling is common...

You need to get a diagnostic scanner on it to check the sensors and make sure they are in range...

 

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 Post subject: Re: HELP, HEAPS of BLACK SMOKE- Eb 4L, EL XR6 Head,Wade Cam
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 2:20 pm 
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i was told the cam was a wade stage 2, but i found it wierd wen the cam said 94da so i thought it was a regrind, maybe its just a std cam in an xr6 head, the cam was given to me out of a f**k bottom end

 

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 Post subject: Re: HELP, HEAPS of BLACK SMOKE- Eb 4L, EL XR6 Head,Wade Cam
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i was told the cam was a wade stage 2, but i found it wierd wen the cam said 94da so i thought it was a regrind, maybe its just a std cam in an xr6 head, the cam was given to me out of a f**k bottom end

 

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 Post subject: Re: HELP, HEAPS of BLACK SMOKE- Eb 4L, EL XR6 Head,Wade Cam
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 2:29 pm 
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if it is a regrind did you fit the extra shims, or was the rocker gear off it supplied that had extra shims?

It almost sounds like a map to me... But you must have killed it for a reason...

I'd be pulling it back to bits and getting the wade number out of it emailing wade saying I have this cam, what size shims do I need (then check what is in it) and can you guys send a spec sheet on where to dial it in...

Take it too Ford and them to plug their CAM tester on it and see if the map is s**t itself, or alternatively if you have a spare try that...

 

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 Post subject: Re: HELP, HEAPS of BLACK SMOKE- Eb 4L, EL XR6 Head,Wade Cam
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 2:33 pm 
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i was told the cam was a wade stage 2, but i found it wierd wen the cam said 94da so i thought it was a regrind, maybe its just a std cam in an xr6 head, the cam was given to me out of a f**k bottom end


It might be a regrind, but without verifying the numbers stamped on the end of the cam, noone will know what cam it is. Cam grind stamp is usually at the end of the cam which the camshaft sprocket is held onto. If you can remove it and have a squizz at that, then everyone will know just a little bit more about this cam.

Also check that the vacuum hose at the map sensor isn't split. it may be connected, but if it has a split, you might as well not have it connected.

When you took the camshaft sprocket off, did you reset the timing chain tensioner?

 

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 Post subject: Re: HELP, HEAPS of BLACK SMOKE- Eb 4L, EL XR6 Head,Wade Cam
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 12:06 am 
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yeh i re tensioned the timing chain, thats all good, i havent been near the car in a week so when i get the chance i will, it must be ita regrind because ot had the ford stamp 94DA on it.

 

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 Post subject: Re: HELP, HEAPS of BLACK SMOKE- Eb 4L, EL XR6 Head,Wade Cam
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 9:16 am 
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The '94DA' is just a standard marking on the cam from Ford, it's got nothing to do with the profile ground on the cam if it has been ground by Wade :wink:

As Phongus suggested, check the end of the camshaft where it bolts to the cam sprocket/gear. If, it has been reground, the company who did the grind will have either stamped or engraved their company name and grind number in this place.

Something like this:
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