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 Post subject: Help, Tick/Knock Noise
Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 10:44 am 
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Hey guys,

Tonight i started the car up and from under the sump area im hearing this noise, its a tick/knock sound, now it only started after i put some of that nulon lifter free up treament stuff in,

Would it be possible i have to much oil in the engine for it to handle

Here is a video well,


http://s649.photobucket.com/albums/uu21 ... eo0016.mp4


http://s649.photobucket.com/albums/uu21 ... eo0017.mp4

 

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Posted by Xcabbi, Does it slap or rattle? Rattle is more to do with timing chains and tensioners. Slap is more to do with lifters, rings, bearings or GENIII boat anchors

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 Post subject: Re: Help, Tick/Knock Noise
Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 10:52 am 
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those links only take us to the home page..

why put lifter free up in it?? isnt this the low km engine you just put in??
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 Post subject: Re: Help, Tick/Knock Noise
Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 11:05 am 
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frd906n wrote:
Hey guys,

Tonight i started the car up and from under the sump area im hearing this noise, its a tick/knock sound, now it only started after i put some of that nulon lifter free up treament stuff in,

Would it be possible i have to much oil in the engine for it to handle



Wouldnt be possible if you had too much oil if you checked it?

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 Post subject: Re: Help, Tick/Knock Noise
Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 3:00 pm 
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Links fixed

 

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Posted by Xcabbi, Does it slap or rattle? Rattle is more to do with timing chains and tensioners. Slap is more to do with lifters, rings, bearings or GENIII boat anchors

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 Post subject: Re: Help, Tick/Knock Noise
Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 3:07 pm 
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i know you said its coming from the sump but maybe its the lifters/HLA's
when i put my cam in my lifters were noisy as for a week or so. when cold they were fine but when my engine got warmed up f**k were they noisy , i thought they were f**k but after a good cruise and oil change there all sweet :D

 

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 Post subject: Re: Help, Tick/Knock Noise
Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 3:24 pm 
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if that noise is coming from the bottom end? it could be a crook oil pump ? ... its hard to tell from those vids... more than likely a tick or tap noise would be a dud lifter..
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 Post subject: Re: Help, Tick/Knock Noise
Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 3:59 pm 
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Cheers guys. she is due for her first 5000 kms service next weekend, so fresh oil and filter will be going in,

Any one recommend a good oil, will be changing the lifters soon as a start work

 

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Posted by Xcabbi, Does it slap or rattle? Rattle is more to do with timing chains and tensioners. Slap is more to do with lifters, rings, bearings or GENIII boat anchors

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 Post subject: Re: Help, Tick/Knock Noise
Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 4:02 pm 
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HPR 15.. Just depends on what viscosity you want to go for.
If you like nulon, Nulon street and track is ok.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Help, Tick/Knock Noise
Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 4:05 pm 
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cheers, now i dont like nulon at all, well the lifter treatment anyways,

Ill let you no how i go

 

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Posted by Xcabbi, Does it slap or rattle? Rattle is more to do with timing chains and tensioners. Slap is more to do with lifters, rings, bearings or GENIII boat anchors

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Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 4:33 pm 
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i just changed the oil in my mrs au which had a noisy top end even after a lifter and rocker change..
so we went from penrite hpr 10 to nulon 10W-30 Hi-Tech Fast Flowing Engine Oil and suprisingly the top end is much quieter now...

ive been using penrite for years but just thought ill try something different and so far seems to be better.. :shock:
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 Post subject: Re: Help, Tick/Knock Noise
Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 4:41 pm 
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Hmmm sounds good troyman, see when i bought the engine it had a split in the seam of the sump and and leaked out, so the engine sat with no oil in it for about 3 to 4 months, so my first thoughts were seeing tho it had no oil and wasnt started for the peroid of time that the lifters and s**t were dry,

But i wil try that oil troyman and let ya no how i go with it

 

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Posted by Xcabbi, Does it slap or rattle? Rattle is more to do with timing chains and tensioners. Slap is more to do with lifters, rings, bearings or GENIII boat anchors

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 Post subject: Re: Help, Tick/Knock Noise
Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 4:43 pm 
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TROYMAN wrote:
i just changed the oil in my mrs au which had a noisy top end even after a lifter and rocker change..
so we went from penrite hpr 10 to nulon 10W-30 Hi-Tech Fast Flowing Engine Oil and suprisingly the top end is much quieter now...

ive been using penrite for years but just thought ill try something different and so far seems to be better.. :shock:


I was using the penrite on my old engine, 20w 50, but seeing thought i didnt now what oil was used in the one i bought i assumed the oil i was using wouldnt hurt, but now i have assumed rong

 

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Posted by Xcabbi, Does it slap or rattle? Rattle is more to do with timing chains and tensioners. Slap is more to do with lifters, rings, bearings or GENIII boat anchors

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Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 4:53 pm 
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yea it sounds like the tappets but hard to tell from video, i wouldnt even bother with that lifter s**t.
i'd pull the cover off and investigate
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 Post subject: Re: Help, Tick/Knock Noise
Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 7:13 pm 
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Sorry guys about the vid, best i could get, and yeh its defintly lifters, ill do a oil change next week and see how it goes, if not ill put a new set of lifters in when i get back to work

 

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Posted by Xcabbi, Does it slap or rattle? Rattle is more to do with timing chains and tensioners. Slap is more to do with lifters, rings, bearings or GENIII boat anchors

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 Post subject: Re: Help, Tick/Knock Noise
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 6:57 pm 
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Hi frd906n...
i had the same problem with my NC FAIRLANE with the 4.0L engine. i thought it was the oil pump which was f&%cked...but then i removed the inspection plate for the transmission (where the bell housing bolts to the rear of the motor) & found out that one of the Torque Converter Bolts was VERY loose!!!

Have a look @ those first before doing what i did, & remove the whole engine out. lol
PS: Let me know how u go!
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