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 Post subject: Here's an odd one for you.
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 8:29 pm 
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For some strange reason my EF wagon will refuse to start on occasion unless I pump the s**t out of the brake pedal. :? :?
Has anyone else ever had this issue? or any ideas why this could be happening?

 

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 Post subject: Re: Here's an odd one for you.
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:16 pm 
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when you say refuse to start - does it crank?
possibly a bad bcm / smartlock
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Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 1:43 am 
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When it does start...does it blow black smoke???....leaking injectors???

 

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 Post subject: Re: Here's an odd one for you.
Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 10:17 pm 
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66 coupe wrote:
when you say refuse to start - does it crank?
possibly a bad bcm / smartlock

Flat out refuses to crank, fuel pump etc primes as normal but no cranking. I have to hold the key over in the 'start' position while pumping the brake pedal to get her to crank. Sometimes only a couple of pumps and she'll go. And sometimes I won't even need to, but on occasion it'll take a good 10 - 20 seconds of pounding on the pedal before she'll turn over. When she does crank she'll fire up immediately but it is VERY inconvenient. :)
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When it does start...does it blow black smoke???....leaking injectors???

Yes, only a small puff, gone in seconds but it is noticeable. Also the revs seem very high for about 2 - 5 seconds (over 2000rpm) when she does fire up. I'm not sure about the leaking injectors, there is no noticeable fuel smell around the car, even with pressure in the fuel lines so I'm GUESSING no.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Here's an odd one for you.
Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 10:37 pm 
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sounds like a bad bcm, next time it does it instead of pumping the brake, hit the dash near your left knee. The bcm can be repaired, or you can install a smartlock bypass module to resolve this problem
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Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 10:47 pm 
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:lol: Typical!!! Now I want it to play up so I can see if it's the BCM and of course she fires up 1st time, every time!! Bloody cars!! :lol:
Cheers for the info and I'll keep you posted on it next time she plays up.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Here's an odd one for you.
Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 10:49 pm 
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Another vote for a dry joint in the BEM.
When it's not cranking, pull the CRT LP fuse - if it now motors over (won't start though), then smartlock in the BEM is an issue, particularly if the smartlock LED is not flashing codes.

 

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Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 10:59 am 
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66 coupe wrote:
sounds like a bad bcm, next time it does it instead of pumping the brake, hit the dash near your left knee. The bcm can be repaired, or you can install a smartlock bypass module to resolve this problem

Gave the dash a bump as you suggested and off she went (Wooo Hooo!!! :D ), so what's involved in repairing/replacing the BCM?
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Another vote for a dry joint in the BEM.
When it's not cranking, pull the CRT LP fuse - if it now motors over (won't start though), then smartlock in the BEM is an issue, particularly if the smartlock LED is not flashing codes.
I pulled the fuse and it made no difference, still not cranking over. The smartlock LED blinks as normal until you turn the key to ignition, then it stays steady for 1 - 2 seconds and goes out. (As normal IIRC, I never really paid much attention to it before)

 

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 Post subject: Re: Here's an odd one for you.
Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 11:37 am 
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if you want to send the BCM over to perth, I can repair it for you, alternatively you can install a smartlock bypass from www.shiftkits.com.au
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Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 12:45 pm 
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Just pick up another from the wreckers and plug it in and set it to reprogram,
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